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LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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Yeah, that's why I only agreed to the minimal terms needed to use the tv, everything else is unchecked

Seems kind of outrageous you had to agree to any terms, even minimal ones. TVs existed for many decades without needing terms.

Yeah you'd think they should allow a "dumb TV mode" where you agree to nothing.

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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by the way, Intel's Quark chip is installed at least 3 times on each chipset and can run on a Minix OS when plugged in to the power and off: from: https://web.archive.org/web/20201201175708/http://blog.ptsec... Highly efficient" is 25mW at 33MHz. According to the Wikipedia page, it can run even when the PC is off but plugged in or connected to battery. an ARM Cortex M0-4 will use even less power in idle. All it needs…

People worried about LG. Use Android, iOS and Windows. Use Facebook and TikTok! Use WhatApp and get shocked TikTok keeps all data, video, images, text and reads it. Same as WhatsApp. Drive a Tesla. Have that Ring on the door and other devices. Go figure. People are strange. And yes, that ME and PSP are on every cpu since I can't remember, Thinkpad T60 was probably one of the last ones without spy tech.

FYI AMD's PSP does not connect to the internet like Intel's ME does.

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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"We own the glass" that's what really stood out to me. I can still disconnect my TV from wifi. But what scares me is when every device comes with their own esim and cellular radio.

Same here, I registered the domain [0] moments after watching the GN video. It's serving an oled-safe screensaver with some, uh, relevant content.

[0] https://weowntheglass.com

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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LG's statement: > ACR uses audio fingerprinting technology using the TV’s internal audio processor (not a speaker) to identify content and does not collect screenshots, screen recordings, video recordings, voice recordings, or other audio recordings from the TV. So they are claiming that ACR is done entirely through audio processing, and no visual data from the screen itself is used? That...doesn't seem plausible. Th…

Does it matter? Whether they are doing it on device or in the cloud, they are still recording what their customers say and collecting data on it without their consent.

To me, this is really an admission.

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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LG's statement: > ACR uses audio fingerprinting technology using the TV’s internal audio processor (not a speaker) to identify content and does not collect screenshots, screen recordings, video recordings, voice recordings, or other audio recordings from the TV. So they are claiming that ACR is done entirely through audio processing, and no visual data from the screen itself is used? That...doesn't seem plausible. Th…

No, I think they’re saying two separate things: - ACR uses audio fingerprinting - ACR does not collect screen recordings Both can be true if the TV hashes the frames locally and ACR “collects” the hashes.

Or if they took all this time to respond because they were busy putting all the stuff they are denying in a second program they called "bcr"

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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> So they are claiming that ACR is done entirely through audio processing, and no visual data from the screen itself is used? That...doesn't seem plausible. It apparently is. Do you know the Nielsen Ratings? That's exactly how they know what people are watching these days. I've been contacted by them to be one of their subjects. They ship you a device that listens and recognizes based on content. They look for certai…

The Shazam app on my wife’s iPhone can identify TV shows and movies very quickly, sometimes nearly instantly. Not sure how it does that.

TV shows are completed and in the can well before air date. It is entirely plausible that the interested party in having the content identifiable by Shazam like services submit whatever needs to be submitted for new content

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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> "LG TVs process voice data only when the voice button on the remote control is pressed and held, or when a wake word such as 'Hi LG' is recognized after the user has activated the Far-Field voice recognition feature." > LG went on to say that beyond the aforementioned instances, "the TVs do not collect or record ambient conversations." LG is contradicting themselves here. In order to detect a wake word then they mu…

> In order to detect a wake word then they must be collecting or recording ambient conversations. There's a risk here that we will talk-past one another while using different meanings of the same words, so let me offer a scenario: AcmeTV has an isolated component which taps microphone input, records to a 5-second ring buffer, and on "Wakey-Wakey" triggers an alert flag. Assume it works perfectly accurately. Would you…

> Assume it works perfectly accurately.

Well this is a silly assumption. Wake word false positives happen all the time. (“No Siri, I wasn’t talking to you…”)

Re: LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

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We need to start using AI to hack our own devices and make our own TV os, sort of like was done for routers. Probably relatively doable these days.

That is one thing AI companies try to do, make it impossible to do any kind of piracy or reverse engineering through their "safety alignments". And it's pretty reliable.
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