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Note: Turning off that checkbox is not enough. You also need to fill out the "Do not train on my content" request here: https://privacy.openai.com/policies?modal=take-control
Based on their behavior over the past few years, why would you assume that checkbox even does anything at all?
The vast majority of OpenAI users don’t follow the industry drama and have no idea how terrible the company is. They’ve been really good at getting good press coverage, with journalists who will repeat the company narrative. Even when critical it is very often framed within the narrative they established
Worse, they use the product and still don't know.
Turn on "Advanced Account Security", that prevents model training from being turned on.
Where does it say that? https://chatgpt.com/#settings/Security merely says Adds the highest level of account security by requiring stronger sign-in methods and applying stricter protections to help prevent unauthorized access. That is not about model training.
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Yes, blame the users.
Up until ~1800, the way societies handled this kind of depravity was to hit the bad actors with sticks or rocks until their skull opened up so the evil spirits could leave their bodies. It's unfortunate that most societies have outlawed this practice. I'm certain if that were in place today, we wouldn't have this problem. I've yet to hear any alternative solution that's as effective.
/s for the /s impaired.
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Where does it say that? https://chatgpt.com/#settings/Security merely says Adds the highest level of account security by requiring stronger sign-in methods and applying stricter protections to help prevent unauthorized access. That is not about model training.
Documentation is not complete, it also protects your data from being used in training.
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This is a problem everywhere, Apple does the same thing on MacOS by reverting privacy/security grants to apps
Reverting... to on? I've seen some stuff in Apple-land where I'm pretty sure it went back to the default option after an update but I've never seen anything get granted more permissions.
That's because OpenAI has several "do not train on my data" controls, and you may be using only one. First one: "Settings > Data Controls > Improve the model for everyone > Switch off the toggle" The other one is "OpenAI Privacy Portal" > "Do not train on my content" https://privacy.openai.com/policies?action=AUTOMATED_DECISIO... Why are there several? You probably need an ML PhD to get it /s Does using all of them a…
There are a couple of reasons the privacy portal page exists in addition to the app settings. One reason is that it covers OpenAI products beyond ChatGPT/Codex (e.g., Sora). A second reason is that it provides functionality to logged out / non-users, like the EU right to be forgotten.
You don't need to toggle all of them to have your wishes respected. That would be a terrible design.
I work at OpenAI, but not on privacy. I am not their spokesperson. In my experience, we take a great deal of painstaking care to respect people's privacy, and we go well beyond our minimal legal obligations in doing so.
Lol, "Outrageous that the company that chose to ignore copyright holder claims, chose to ignore my checkbox of intent despite the implied pinky promise".
Ignoring the checkbox is an utterly offensive move, but repeatedly manipulating it contrary to stated consumer intent is a whole other level. I didn't know we were supposed to take 'frontier' literally in every sense of the word. I have now witnessed this myself after not believing this at first. Of course, screenshots etc. will hardly prove anything. This needs a proper third-party audit!
This is apparently enough to hold up the broadly-accepted fiction that its possible to use these services while maintaining privacy and without risk. There's a huge industry of hosting services to handle the needs companies who compete with the primary cloud providers, who can't afford the IP and competitive risk.
OpenAI was caught directly stealing from apple, asking employees to bring in their laptops. Its a polite fiction that companies aren't trying to gain any advantage over the other. There's no effective consequence, and even if they get caught red handed they can litigate for decades.
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Documentation is not complete, it also protects your data from being used in training.
Citation?
> Automatic training exclusion. People working with especially sensitive information may opt not to have those conversations used for model training. With Advanced Account Security enabled, that preference is automatic: conversations from those accounts will not be used to train our models.