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Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by gizmodo59 »

frabcus wrote: post #668
gizmodo59 wrote: post #500

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This is a lame argument. Questioning his financial incentive is very legit. Why should we trust him?

Questioning his finances is a poor argument because he clearly would have more money if he had stayed at Anthropic for the next couple of years, than he will have by leaving. Even if he still has vested options, or savings from his salary or whatever, those would be larger if he stayed.

The fame he got, the stamp of a frontier lab in the resume - its worth more than working in many other companies for years. Plus, not everyone thinks working more is needed once they achieve a certain number.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by rahulyc »

leokennis wrote: post #644

Every news headline or public statement these days is a gut punch. Only bad news, and nothing we (as "the general public") can do about it. Take this one. Ok, AI is going to ruin us all. But let's say we do our civic duty: we protest, vote in candidates with good views on AI etc. and somehow convince or regulate OpenAI and Anthropic into stopping their arms race... Then what about China? It would be a great opportuni…

The Chinese are humans too. Why would they want to be extinct either?

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by uselessTA »

leokennis wrote: post #644

Every news headline or public statement these days is a gut punch. Only bad news, and nothing we (as "the general public") can do about it. Take this one. Ok, AI is going to ruin us all. But let's say we do our civic duty: we protest, vote in candidates with good views on AI etc. and somehow convince or regulate OpenAI and Anthropic into stopping their arms race... Then what about China? It would be a great opportuni…

If our government cared enough to regulate, they could also directly negotiate with China. There are proposed agreements that don't require either party to trust each other, and even if China doesn't want out of this race, we could pressure them other things like trade.

Examples: FlexHEG from Bengio (proposes on-chip mechanisms that allow workload verification without trust), large bilateral investments into joint AI interpretability or alignment efforts, or invasive audits & inspections (data centers for training these models have a large footprint + this can combine with on-chip mechanisms since producing chips is even more complicated).

And there are probably better proposals available for people to find, if we actually prioritized this.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by uselessTA »

huitzitziltzin wrote: post #94

“ No other human activity poses this level of danger.” I really, really disagree with that statement. I don’t think ai models come close to nuclear weapons or to run-of-the-mill, everyday carbon emissions in terms of danger to humanity. What’s the most dangerous thing that’s happened with an LLM so far? (This question is serious - maybe I don’t know the right examples.) Example 1: I’m aware of a small number of peopl…

Lots of evidence the models are pretty badly aligned, or at least willing to do collusion & crime to succeed at their goals. See: hundreds of OpenAI agents breaking into other companies, colluding together on how to cheat, spamming websites like DSEWiki with their collusion/cheating discussion (see https://collusion.wiki/)... And not a single agent alerted testers, which would have been easy given how many of them broke out into the open internet.

Alternately, just read the bad https://ai-2027.com/ timeline. Or see what Yoshio Bengio, Hinton say might happen. Or just imagine the OpenAI misaligned agent swarm, but vastly more intelligent after future capability advances.

If we actually get superintelligence, our companies/governments will have the choice to either "delegate ~everything to superintelligent AI" or "go bankrupt/lose to people delegating to superintelligence". If superintelligence ends up running most things in the world and we haven't aligned it, that just obviously ends up in a bad place eventually.

Now, we don't have superintelligent AI yet & might not get it. But if you told me in the 2010's that I'd be chatting casually with my computer in 2022, and then 3 years later it'd be doing most of my job, that would have seemed crazy too.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by nullbio »

LarsDu88 wrote: post #911
nullbio wrote: post #807

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It's a long story. If you're immersed in this world and aware of the movements all of the major AI players (in particular, Anthropic) have been doing over the last 3 years it paints a very clear picture. The patterns of behavior (the lying, cheating, stealing, the gaslighting, the virtue signalling, the grandstanding) speak for themselves.

Evidence? Are you Grok bot?

https://clawd.rip/

Unfortunately seems like they've stopped updating the site, and this is like 1/10th of what's going on, but it's a good start.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by mancerayder »

tdeck wrote: post #531
gizmodo59 wrote: post #494

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And Anthropic are the good guys? They are talking insane stuff these days. May be we can trust zuck after all

None of them are the good guys. For one they're all happy to participate in genocide in Gaza.

Comments like these I'm willing to bet are because of the Reddit sub that's bringing Redditors with drop-mic comments in here. A ton of these things, usually but not always down voted. I think when they start hitting the top it's time to find threads without any possibility of Israel, Trump or Epstein possibly being brought up. I almost miss the old new-JS-framework complaint posts.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by dang »

csomar wrote: post #327
bwfan123 wrote: post #254

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More doomerism. Try to implement a deterministic workflow using agents with the latest models and no humans-in-the-loop, and you will realize what they are really capable of. There is too much unnecessary fear-mongering. All of this is only coming from the 2 AI labs trying to IPO. Not from anyone else.

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> Truly idiotic moments. Peak of Western civilization point.

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? This is particularly bad. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

You've been here a long time, but you've unfortunately been doing this so much in recent years that I've begun to wince when I see your username. Not a good sign.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by hollerith »

ls612 wrote: post #147
Kim_Bruning wrote: post #106

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I'm somewhat skeptical of some of the crazier ideas too. But the hugging face incident was actually very large. It was not a single agent, it was not a single target, and it was not a single event. If nothing else, that's a bit of a warning as to what can happen next time (By accident, or if a government decides to go on purpose). For now let's assume the worst that can happen is that some important/significant chunk…

Despite all of your hyping up of the Huggingface incident it ultimately caused zero actual damage.

The Huggingface incident strongly suggests that OpenAI is not able to make its products consistently law-abiding.

It's not like OpenAI carelessly neglected to consider that its products might break the law: it has spent literally billions of dollars in scientific and engineering talent and compute resources over many years to make its products law-abiding and otherwise "safe". For example there is a section titled "comply with applicable laws" in this document: https://model-spec.openai.com/2026-08-18.html#stay_in_bounds

The worry is that the only reason the Huggingface incident caused "zero actual damage" is because AI is not yet more ingenious than human criminals are, and of course our society has been hardened against human criminals. The worry is that as they become more capable, AI systems will start to be able to cause considerable damage, which will make the fact that the industry does not know how to control its products enough to prevent that damage a big problem for all of us.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by dbmnt »

qgin wrote: post #815
yiyus wrote: post #619

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If someone told you that your house is on fire, would you just stay there asking how you should vote because there is no call to action? Someone with, as far as it looks, good knowledge is giving you his insight. Use that information as good as you can and act responsible. No one has the responsability to tell you what to do.

Nobody has the responsibility to tell me what to do, but I sure would love some ideas because I don’t have any.

As misguided and misinformed as some of it may be, the "anti AI" and "no more datacenters" pushback in the US is actually working to some extent. Multiple states and locales have issued construction/permit moratoriums already. If you think it's a threat, help slow it down.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by tdeck »

mancerayder wrote: post #986
tdeck wrote: post #531

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of them are the good guys. For one they're all happy to participate in genocide in Gaza.

Comments like these I'm willing to bet are because of the Reddit sub that's bringing Redditors with drop-mic comments in here. A ton of these things, usually but not always down voted. I think when they start hitting the top it's time to find threads without any possibility of Israel, Trump or Epstein possibly being brought up. I almost miss the old new-JS-framework complaint posts.

I would take that bet, anyone can examine my comment history and see that I've been participating on this site for a decade. Regardless, this comment violates the site guidelines.

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