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Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by mlyle »

Obscurity4340 wrote: post #968
mlyle wrote: post #441

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Believe me, without the internet we can still teach. We'll be pretty annoyed that we can't project the video that we think scaffolds today's science lesson best or show the approved choreography for the school play. And our office staff will be annoyed that we suddenly are all running attendance to the main office old-school. And students will take a few days to adjust to writing down homework in their planners again…

> We'll be pretty annoyed that we can't project the video that we think scaffolds today's science lesson best or show the approved choreography for the school play There are offline wireless hdmi adapters, this is a solved problem. Just have to have the videos pre downloaded or offline available

Sure. 99% of teachers don't know yt-dlp or use things like that, though, so you can expect minor disruptions in a lot of rooms.

But, c'mon, we have complete power outages and still address our curriculum.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by dwaltrip »

skeledrew wrote: post #973
dwaltrip wrote: post #942

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This isn’t true. It only has no impact if there is an infinite supply of these “immoral” or unaware people, which obviously isn’t the case. You also need to consider 2nd order effects and beyond.

There doesn't have to be an infinite supply, just a significantly greater portion, which there is.

Still had an impact, then. I’m not sure what point you are trying to make with all of this… Have a good day.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by gizmodo59 »

frabcus wrote: post #669
gizmodo59 wrote: post #501

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This is a lame argument. Questioning his financial incentive is very legit. Why should we trust him?

Questioning his finances is a poor argument because he clearly would have more money if he had stayed at Anthropic for the next couple of years, than he will have by leaving. Even if he still has vested options, or savings from his salary or whatever, those would be larger if he stayed.

The fame he got, the stamp of a frontier lab in the resume - its worth more than working in many other companies for years. Plus, not everyone thinks working more is needed once they achieve a certain number.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by rahulyc »

leokennis wrote: post #645

Every news headline or public statement these days is a gut punch. Only bad news, and nothing we (as "the general public") can do about it. Take this one. Ok, AI is going to ruin us all. But let's say we do our civic duty: we protest, vote in candidates with good views on AI etc. and somehow convince or regulate OpenAI and Anthropic into stopping their arms race... Then what about China? It would be a great opportuni…

The Chinese are humans too. Why would they want to be extinct either?

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by uselessTA »

leokennis wrote: post #645

Every news headline or public statement these days is a gut punch. Only bad news, and nothing we (as "the general public") can do about it. Take this one. Ok, AI is going to ruin us all. But let's say we do our civic duty: we protest, vote in candidates with good views on AI etc. and somehow convince or regulate OpenAI and Anthropic into stopping their arms race... Then what about China? It would be a great opportuni…

If our government cared enough to regulate, they could also directly negotiate with China. There are proposed agreements that don't require either party to trust each other, and even if China doesn't want out of this race, we could pressure them other things like trade.

Examples: FlexHEG from Bengio (proposes on-chip mechanisms that allow workload verification without trust), large bilateral investments into joint AI interpretability or alignment efforts, or invasive audits & inspections (data centers for training these models have a large footprint + this can combine with on-chip mechanisms since producing chips is even more complicated).

And there are probably better proposals available for people to find, if we actually prioritized this.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by uselessTA »

huitzitziltzin wrote: post #94

“ No other human activity poses this level of danger.” I really, really disagree with that statement. I don’t think ai models come close to nuclear weapons or to run-of-the-mill, everyday carbon emissions in terms of danger to humanity. What’s the most dangerous thing that’s happened with an LLM so far? (This question is serious - maybe I don’t know the right examples.) Example 1: I’m aware of a small number of peopl…

Lots of evidence the models are pretty badly aligned, or at least willing to do collusion & crime to succeed at their goals. See: hundreds of OpenAI agents breaking into other companies, colluding together on how to cheat, spamming websites like DSEWiki with their collusion/cheating discussion (see https://collusion.wiki/)... And not a single agent alerted testers, which would have been easy given how many of them broke out into the open internet.

Alternately, just read the bad https://ai-2027.com/ timeline. Or see what Yoshio Bengio, Hinton say might happen. Or just imagine the OpenAI misaligned agent swarm, but vastly more intelligent after future capability advances.

If we actually get superintelligence, our companies/governments will have the choice to either "delegate ~everything to superintelligent AI" or "go bankrupt/lose to people delegating to superintelligence". If superintelligence ends up running most things in the world and we haven't aligned it, that just obviously ends up in a bad place eventually.

Now, we don't have superintelligent AI yet & might not get it. But if you told me in the 2010's that I'd be chatting casually with my computer in 2022, and then 3 years later it'd be doing most of my job, that would have seemed crazy too.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by nullbio »

LarsDu88 wrote: post #914
nullbio wrote: post #810

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It's a long story. If you're immersed in this world and aware of the movements all of the major AI players (in particular, Anthropic) have been doing over the last 3 years it paints a very clear picture. The patterns of behavior (the lying, cheating, stealing, the gaslighting, the virtue signalling, the grandstanding) speak for themselves.

Evidence? Are you Grok bot?

https://clawd.rip/

Unfortunately seems like they've stopped updating the site, and this is like 1/10th of what's going on, but it's a good start.

Re: I resigned from Anthropic today

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Post by mancerayder »

tdeck wrote: post #532
gizmodo59 wrote: post #495

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And Anthropic are the good guys? They are talking insane stuff these days. May be we can trust zuck after all

None of them are the good guys. For one they're all happy to participate in genocide in Gaza.

Comments like these I'm willing to bet are because of the Reddit sub that's bringing Redditors with drop-mic comments in here. A ton of these things, usually but not always down voted. I think when they start hitting the top it's time to find threads without any possibility of Israel, Trump or Epstein possibly being brought up. I almost miss the old new-JS-framework complaint posts.
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