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Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by pjmlp »

petcat wrote: post #274
pjmlp wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I rather have 30 day vacations, a proper life with 40h work week, healthcare, union membership, than SV salaries, which are nontheless an exception, most of the developers, that aren't even properly accredited Software Engineers, get the same salary as most office workers. In which country do fast food workers get higher salaries than office workers, unless we are talking about tourism industry outside Europe, with s…

> I rather have 30 day vacations, a proper life with 40h work week, healthcare, union membership, than SV salaries This is an appeal to mediocrity and it doesn't really hold when comparing EU to Silicon Valley tech jobs. Young engineers in the Silicon Valley (or NYC, or Seattle) have excellent health care, generous vacation and other benefits, and they also make substantially more money. Why would a young, ambitious…

That is what late capitalism expects, 20 something year olds willing to do whatever it takes to get that dream job, changing the world with code, as if.

The games industry and Hollywood have that lesson very well thought out.

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Post by doublepg23 »

pjmlp wrote: post #201
mrits wrote: post #145

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The current Europe strategy seems to be to pay software engineers less money and hope for a superior product. I'm not sure how you'd catch up when some of your engineers literally make less than our fast food workers.

I rather have 30 day vacations, a proper life with 40h work week, healthcare, union membership, than SV salaries, which are nontheless an exception, most of the developers, that aren't even properly accredited Software Engineers, get the same salary as most office workers. In which country do fast food workers get higher salaries than office workers, unless we are talking about tourism industry outside Europe, with s…

> In which country do fast food workers get higher salaries than office workers, unless we are talking about tourism industry outside Europe, with said workers getting tips in Euros and Dollars instead of local currency?

https://buc-ees.com/careers/

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by mitxela »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #160
pocksuppet wrote: post #65

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The hidden cost, of course, is that the NSA learns everything there is to know about you and your customers. Cloudflare is the LG TV of websites, but it's worse because we've known it has an always-on microphone and speech-to-text for over a decade and we still keep using it for some reason.

> The hidden cost, of course, is that the NSA learns everything there is to know about you and your customers. I doubt the NSA is gobbling up all the CF traffic because maybe, maybe they will find something of interest. Can the NSA make CF "mirror" your website traffic to them if you are of interest to them, most likely yes. I am not that paranoid to think that my website of a few corporate pages is of interest to th…

They also certainly have many heuristics running. Your corporate website is interesting because it reveals who your suppliers and customers are, and all of your passwords. They don't have the manpower to scrape this manually so they scrape it automatically

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Post by mitxela »

spacebanana7 wrote: post #173
kakacik wrote: post #90

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If you care about security and specifically NSA, don't use US clouds (owned or hosted), period. There is not a single one they don't have full access to, why should there be one. Or clouds in general, its all wishful thinking and pinky promises.

What about the Chinese clouds? It’s hard to imagine Alibaba etc being cooperative with western intelligence

You have to be a registered Chinese business entity with a CCP director on your board to legally use that

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Post by mitxela »

seki285 wrote: post #303
pocksuppet wrote: post #65

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The hidden cost, of course, is that the NSA learns everything there is to know about you and your customers. Cloudflare is the LG TV of websites, but it's worse because we've known it has an always-on microphone and speech-to-text for over a decade and we still keep using it for some reason.

>talks about how bad Cloudflare is with imaginary threats >doesn't offer an alternative and leaves Every. Single. Time.

The alternative is nothing. You don't actually need cloudflare.

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Post by spiderfarmer »

shintoist wrote: post #241
thih9 wrote: post #184

What are some EU based alternatives? Edit: I found https://european-alternatives.eu/alternative-to/cloudflare , which lists among others: https://bunny.net/ , https://www.keycdn.com/ , https://blazingcdn.com/ , https://www.myrasecurity.com/en/product-content-delivery-net... , https://www.leaseweb.com/cdn . If anyone has any personal experiences with any of these please share.

I've been using bunny.net for a while and it's not bad. It has some rough edges, but it does what it's supposed to and I haven't experienced any downtime. The main "gotcha" is that there's no free plan, it's a minimum of $1 per month, you pay for usage. In practice it's very hard to spend more than a dollar in a month.

I spend 40 euros per month, with 75% because of AI scrapers.

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Post by exfalso »

snorremd wrote: post #202
jillesvangurp wrote: post #58

It's seriously good value for small websites. Basically, there is no cost aside from the domain. And for registering and managing domains, they are pretty much the most affordable option as well. And they have a few other things that aren't half bad to use with pretty generous freemium layers. We used Google's CDN for the last six years or so but it's pretty annoying to deal with and you have to pay for a load balanc…

Before I went European sovereign for my own personal stack I used Cloudflare for hosting static and somewhat dynamic websites and it has become really nice the later years. There is almost no mention of "regions" in Cloudflare. Your content and code runs globally by default. With traditional clouds you need to think about how you distribute your application. At least that is my experience. Maybe they provide global C…

What do you use as a European CDN atm?

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Post by n6242 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #69
pocksuppet wrote: post #67

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Trump doesn't need to block European access to Cloudflare when Europe already blocks European access to Cloudflare on weekends. In Spain and Italy. And yet, this hasn't deterred European businesses from using Cloudflare and blocking their own customers.

Great, more misinformation. "Europe" doesn't block access to Cloudflare on weekends in either Spain nor Italy. Source: I live in Spain, and I'm affected by the blocks you're referring to, that happen because of shitty Spanish judges forcing Spanish ISPs to block access to specific Cloudflare properties. Why not take even two seconds to check if what you're guessing about, might actually be correct or not? Or the goal…

If anything, you're the one misinforming. I have no interest in soccer and every time there is a match I find out immediately because they like to knock down everything they see in the same general direction. I've even been in the situation of needing to do work for overseas companies in the evening and had to get on a VPN because they were just blocking random stuff and I couldn't install some dependency because the repository was blocked. Last time it happened was last week. My non technical friend was also complaining about some of her uni stuff being blocked recently as well. Maybe you're lucky because only use YouTube and Twitter and don't notice too many sites blocked, but the moment you go outside of big tech your chances are 50/50 you will probably come accross one or two blocked sites if you're not on a VPN.

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Post by leonidasrup »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #306
mitxela wrote: post #295

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You may as well make them work hard to get it. The NSA can only get metadata from your ISP.

This is a joke. If it's electronic the NSA can hack it with impunity, including your ISP. And that's assuming your ISP won't just give them whatever they ask for (unlikely).

There is nothing magical about these NSA hacks:

NSA putting implants into Cisco equipment before delivery to the customer.

https://www.certificationkits.com/nsa-upgrade-process-cisco-...

ANT catalogue from 2008 with hacking equipment:

https://dcssproject.net/ant-catalogue/index.html

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