This might be a source of personal data for Facebook so the next day they present you the product you discussed with your wife last night.
216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]
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> my conclusion after dealing with them for many years is they will lie, cheat, and steal to get whatever they want Honestly, it's not even that extreme in most cases. I think it's usually not malice, it's incompetence. That's why I don't trust big companies with my data. Nothing to do with some CEO's evil plans, but more to do with the hundreds/thousands of mid-level "not my job" or "doing my best" workers who are a…
It's probably both, vis a vis negligence. I just wish it was treated as criminal negligence. This will continue as long as CEO's face no real punishment for mishandling PII.
100% agreed. I'm definitely not making excuses for malice here (as I said in another thread, I think I wasn't clear enough in my original post)..
I think there should be much harsher punishments for PII mishandling, no matter why it happened.
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Streaming sticks also collect your data. Roku does ACR unless you opt out.
Sure but some are just regular computers that run windows, easily converted to Linux.
Which streaming sticks are regular computers that run Windows?
If you mess with the firmware or try to build your own, you’ll not be able to play the higher quality formats because of DRM software.
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#944Okay. This is insane. First the monitor that uses a windows feature to automatically install a small helper tool with root permissions and then starts showing adds in certain regions. Now a tv that is actually actively snooping around on top of the known fingerprinting. What else is next? In the previous topic I got ridiculed for not wanting to buy LG anymore because I could use an agent to modify to strip out the of…
perhaps choosing to stop watching TV in the 90s was a good choice. wonder if I can trust non of my Apple devices and ThinkBook laptops are listening. I'm most concerned about the Windows boxes, as they are easily hacked, somehow BSD-derivatives seemed more secure since day zero.
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There are limits. You can’t waive certain rights, and you can’t overwrite certain laws. The issue is that we haven’t made this shit against the law yet.
Ask LG who has agreed to their wiretapping. They can't tell you if some guest in front of a TV has agreed or not. How can that be concent?
> concent
I've been wondering; do you like to sing together with the LG chime sound?
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Have Claude or Astra reverse engineer the firmware?
I started asking Astra and Terra about this, including the idea of spoofing the data that was mentioned in this thread and got slammed with a warning for Cyber Abuse on my account, the thread is here https://chatgpt.com/s/cx_6a9fc635825481918c84187765645d5c . I will be very careful going forward with what I use open ai for and what I phrase how.
Very strange, check out https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49577129 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49599100 when you have time on this topic.
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What model of fridge?! How did you know the random device on your network was your non-smart fridge? This is a wild story. I want to believe but if it's true I think there's no sane solution other than exploratory surgery on every appliance you buy.
I don’t recall the model. I had bought a new Samsung Monitor, my wife left the fridge door open and it had started alerting on my monitor while I was in game. So I went digging in UniFi, found it, and blocked it. Same with my HP Printer that sent almost a gig of data to Google Print Services daily.
Wait, so both you fridge and your monitor self-connected to wifi? Or you installed monitor software that served as some kind of iot gateway? Every time you tell this story it gets weirder.
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#948Anything with a microphone in it can be used to spy on you.
I always found that talking to computers is incredible stupid and only looks good in Star Trek. But I am apparently the minority in this because every car, phone and television has a voice activated interface.
There was scandal with Siri that lasted for about 5 minutes.
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#949Telescreens [1] are here! War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. [1] Would you like to know more? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telescreen
Not only the telescreens, but my impression of the world in 1984 is that the surveillance depended on an army of watchers at the opposite end. Today we have models of all kinds: classification models, speech to text models, large language models, etc. Surveillance with our devices is automated , no human army of watchers needed!
1973 was not supposed to be quite as grim as 1984, but "what goes in must come out".
Zappa, "I'm the Slime" -
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pm3uDZxt8w
"You will do as you are told until the rights to you are sold . . ."
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I have a similar reaction from folks when I don't trust services/devices. Most telling moment was when I refused to upload my license to LinkedIn because I lost 2FA (token on phone, phone destroyed). Microsoft assured me they would "delete the license as soon as it was verified". I've written too many software systems for too many companies, and I do not believe them . Of course, they'd outsourced to AU10TIX, which d…
When are the victims going to start getting significantly compensated for these breaches? They will keep happening as long as the consequences are just the cost of doing business.
I want this data to be treated like HIPAA data. Any company that collects personal data must have a compliance officer, and any breaches should lead to people going to jail. If you collect personal data, you are personally responsible for it.