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Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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I was looking into the IPv6 adoption of US government websites ( https://community.ipinfo.io/t/the-state-of-ipv6-across-us-go... ) when we discovered that Cloudflare had essentially dethroned Akamai for government content hosting over a number of years. The post primarily focuses on IPv6, but according to our data, Cloudflare hosts 70% of US government websites.

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Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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The NSA collects and archives all internet traffic it can access for future analysis. It's the purpose of the Utah Data center. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

There’s no way a single datacenter costing a couple of billion dollars can store “all Internet traffic the NSA can access”, unless the traffic the NSA can access is a microscopic fraction of the total Internet traffic. Think about it. The Internet runs on tens of thousands of massive datacenters. Thousands are being built as we speak. Obviously a single datacenter cannot hold an appreciable fraction of that. BTW, the…

Regarding storage, a single data center using only slow but dense storage (magnetic tapes) can store far more data than a data center providing regular web services.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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If you care about security and specifically NSA, don't use US clouds (owned or hosted), period. There is not a single one they don't have full access to, why should there be one. Or clouds in general, its all wishful thinking and pinky promises.

What about the Chinese clouds? It’s hard to imagine Alibaba etc being cooperative with western intelligence

Pick your poison

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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The hidden cost, of course, is that the NSA learns everything there is to know about you and your customers. Cloudflare is the LG TV of websites, but it's worse because we've known it has an always-on microphone and speech-to-text for over a decade and we still keep using it for some reason.

> The hidden cost, of course, is that the NSA learns everything there is to know about you and your customers. I doubt the NSA is gobbling up all the CF traffic because maybe, maybe they will find something of interest. Can the NSA make CF "mirror" your website traffic to them if you are of interest to them, most likely yes. I am not that paranoid to think that my website of a few corporate pages is of interest to th…

Not all traffic, but any.

I agree it doesn't matter for most smaller entities, but it's relevant for larger entities and as the US does not anymore intend to be allied with Europe, the Western world, or anybody really, there's now actual incentive to move away from such systemic risks.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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It's seriously good value for small websites. Basically, there is no cost aside from the domain. And for registering and managing domains, they are pretty much the most affordable option as well. And they have a few other things that aren't half bad to use with pretty generous freemium layers. We used Google's CDN for the last six years or so but it's pretty annoying to deal with and you have to pay for a load balanc…

The hidden cost, of course, is that the NSA learns everything there is to know about you and your customers. Cloudflare is the LG TV of websites, but it's worse because we've known it has an always-on microphone and speech-to-text for over a decade and we still keep using it for some reason.

Or they will dump your secrets into all Internet caches...

"Cloudflare Reverse Proxies Are Dumping Uninitialized Memory" - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13718752

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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Honestly, I had the impression that the current US regime also supports Russia in its current war. Did they not ask Ukraine to give the already occupied land and then some? As far as I remember, that was in a form almost like an ultimatum, too. China might be a bigger threat, but I find it hard to believe that this would be the reason.

> Did they not ask Ukraine to give the already occupied land and then some? Ukraine is never going to retake the territory they've lost without European soldiers on the ground. Macron famously said that he would have to send troops to Odesa and yet 3 years later there are still no French troops in Ukraine. Meanwhile Putin has captured even more land and is now actively bombarding Kyiv. It is painfully obvious that Eu…

>The war is at a complete standstill and it will last for another horrible decade if no concessions are made.

There is a slight hope that the current Russian regime will collapse before then and be replaced by one that doesn't want to continue the war. (Though, that said, it could equally well be replaced by a regime that's even more ultranationalist than the current one.)

While Europe certainly does lack the political will to make a substantial intervention, it's not just a question of political will. There is the small matter of not starting the third world war to consider.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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You are not living in Europe, right? Because while I agree that China is a problem, the USA is a much, much bigger problem for Europeans than China is right now. It's mostly the USA that wants to depict China as the main problem when in reality the USA behaves in a hugely aggressive colonial manner. Trump just makes this more obvious, but that has been the case way before Trump already.

When Trump talks about doing the anti colonial thing and withdrawing troops from European soil, the response is outrage. But I've learnt that iPhones and social media is American imperialism, but thousands of troops in dozens of military bases on European soil is not, somehow.

>the response is outrage

Mostly from the US serving politicians scared of losing power.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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> now you can get by on a $200 a month plan for a small business You're delusional if you think that $200/month is appropriate for a small business to pay to host a website ... Most websites don't need a CDN nor DDOS protection, you need to configure your webserver to rate limit stuff that suck bandwidth/CPU from you, but besides that, you've basically fallen for the marketing from Cloudflare that everything requires…

I think their delusion is probably in what they consider a small business. A lot of people on here, given their work experience, think of small as something with a few hundred employees.

> ... think of small as something with a few hundred ...

Yes, plus a strong bias toward IT-heavy businesses. Vs. if my company is doing commercial landscaping, or machining gears for automobile transmissions? Several hundred employees still gives me no reason to pay much for web hosting.

Re: Among European Companies That Use a CDN, Nearly 9 in 10 Use Cloudflare

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What? Go ask almost anyone in Asia outside Mainland China. They all consider China to be the aggressor because they are. E.g., Tibet or India.

> Go ask almost anyone in Asia I think it’s fair to say the U.S. and Russia are Europe’s principal geopolitical adversaries, today, while for anyone in Asia or Oceania it’s China. (Africa and South America are being weirdly carved up—it’s not particularly clear who is trying to colonize versus trade with them.)

> colonize versus trade

Very similar pressures in reality.

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