Some government bodies and officials post "official" public communications on x/facebook which may not be mirrored or oreserved anywhere else in same format.
There has to be a reasonable way to preserve these comms for public benefit.
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#372Anyone else wondering what the "legal advice" is?
I'll be surprised if there was actually any legal advice at all. And if there was it was probably pertaining only to the legality of the software project itself, not actually hosting and running an instance with the explicit goal of facilitating the unauthorized access of Twitter's website.
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#373Few details but glad to see the project will continue. Given how much crucial information is posted exclusively to X, having an alternative frontend is important. Interesting that they were inspired by Invidious (alternative YouTube frontend). That’s another project that could use some love. Hopefully AI coding tools can do some good and make it easier for these projects to find ways into the walled gardens and work…
No way API access to current socials, they are all doomed. Bluesky/ATProto developments seems to be the best hope and basis today to rebuild and get back to users what is and always was theirs.
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#374Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't their own Île-de-France Mobilités app have reliable information on outages? Surely it's more reliable than their Twitter account?
It's the one I use the most, but in my experience it's lagging behind the Twitter accounts. It's also noisy because it puts last-minute outages at the same level as minor month-long schedule change (which can't be dismissed), so some lines (eg. line R) are almost always displayed as having issues.
Ok thanks for the explanation.
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#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
Surely it shouldn't be to difficult to come up with a sort of plugin-type approach like I've seen in various 'comments' sections on existing websites: Simply embed the 'update' feed on a page in the existing website and have some kind of admin panel where employees can easily CRUD some updates. I guess because even this would not be 'free', twitter ends up winning.
> some kind of admin panel where employees can easily CRUD some updates In my experience this is usually the crux. That software always rots, and needs whatever (minimal) on-ramping for employees, as well as access management. If I could wave a wand at those solutions I'd stop fighting the user and let them post to Twitter or wherever, and just have a public facing page pull those posts as updates for consumers outsi…
Access management is already a problem - just maybe they haven’t run into it. What happens when the employee who has the twitter password leaves? (This is France so the only way is probably retirement).
A bespoke system with an interface similar to twitter sounds like it’d be a suitable solution. And I bet it can be vibe coded in 5 minutes.
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#376Keep in mind that those front-ends are, in general, much more friendly towards noscript/basic HTML browsers than the official front-ends broke a few year ago. (well, nitter was at the time) Don't think the 'whatwg cartel' will let some web not require their web engines. Expect shadowpaid hackers to ruin their infrastructure. Don't be a fool, expect the worst (more so when the whatwg cartel is involved). And if you, y…
They are more noscript friendly ... except for the mandatory bot check. Sad that this is what the Internet has become.
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#377Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The CEO's antics, no matter how disturbing, simply aren't most people's top concern when making a product choice. These people need to realize that what you see is what shapes your thinking and the social network's algorithm decides what you see and what you don't see. In the case of X, it's grok aka Mechahitler.
It's true that every now and then they do some sort of prompt engineering on Grok that turns it into mechahitler for a few hours, and it's quite weird and disturbing. Most of the time though, it's actually pretty reasonable. Many times I've seen right-wingers try to ask grok to confirm their beliefs, only to have it shoot them down. Pretty funny honestly. Elon will often claim it's a bug in Grok when he doesn't like…
> Elon will often claim it's a bug in Grok when he doesn't like the answer.
Exactly. This means he will change the model to fit his world view.
Here's a study: https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.2025334119
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> if you hook up to the fediverse No this is the hard problem. HN people live in a bubble. Anything else than signup with oauth and then having access to everyone and its too hard and 99% of people will click away.
I think the friction is higher than that. With few exceptions I basically won't use any new service that requires me to create an account. I do all my online shopping on sites that offer guest checkout. Zero chance I'm creating any new social accounts at this point.
Again, this is HN bubble stuff. The vast majority of people do not mind oauth or account.
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#379Wait, so this was all a Streisand Effect shenanigan to increase the reach of "X"?
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atproto is very promising here, being able to separate personal data from social platforms will make it far easier for people to mass migrate to other services. Unfortunately this selling point is more focused towards tech savvy people but with personal data and privacy becoming more of a concern to the average user online, and social platforms which are working towards keeping bots away its possible.
atrpoto is great technology but disappointing communities most people in bluesky moved to bluesky driven by hate and fear instead of love and curiosity i notice they talk bad a lot about other people's posts in other platforms
I don't see that at all personally. Maybe 10% of the posts I see are political/drama, and almost none of them are insulting posts from other platforms.