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Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Door 1: try to take down sites offering a lite version that people prefer over x.com. Door 2: improve x.com to be better than third-party sites. Which is, Elon?

To be fair, I don't think X could ever satisfy many of the users seeking Nitter services simply by definition.

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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As long as the service provider runs an instance in their infrastructure and allows everybody to read. That said, RSS seems way simpler.

I don't disagree and I'm not a mastodon user but, as far as I know, if you local gov hosted an instance and your state gov did too, you could, essentially, join both and see them together? RSS aggregation seems like the solution to me but I think we've got to admit defeat on that one because it's been around forever and people don't use it.

Pretty much every podcast in the world and all of their listeners are using RSS. WordPress powers something like 30% of the Web, and most of the operators behind those sites are publishing RSS whether they know it or not.

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Few details but glad to see the project will continue. Given how much crucial information is posted exclusively to X, having an alternative frontend is important. Interesting that they were inspired by Invidious (alternative YouTube frontend). That’s another project that could use some love. Hopefully AI coding tools can do some good and make it easier for these projects to find ways into the walled gardens and work…

If you dont mind, could you share an example of information posted exclusively on twitter which was crucial to you? Just curious;)

I don't know if it is still the case, but when I was writing some Wikipedia articles I discovered the British monarchy seemed to use Twitter exclusively for some purposes.

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Somebody needs to figure out how to move millions of people from one platform to other. Otherwise we will never get better platforms and our current techlords will keep getting richer.

>Somebody needs to figure out how to move millions of people from one platform to other

it's been solved, ban the platform. This is a collective action problem. Even if every single user on platform X wants to move to platform Y, as long as they can't coordinate the movement individual cost exceeds the benefit they'd all get.

So the most straight forward way is to get rid of the platform , and everyone will move out of necessity.

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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post #75

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"Maybe we can call it “agent first” to help move things along." "Agent First" API access for social networks. What could possibly go wrong.

And the irony is that we don’t even need APIs for social networks to drown in botspam.

I mean... It'd change nothing for the worse. It's regular users that are getting screwed by lack of API.

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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post #293

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Ok but can you answer my question about reliability?

I don't have a horse in this race but I would question the idea that a municipal service has a better reliability record than x/twitter.

But who is publishing the outage information to X/Twitter if not the utility itself? I'd be surprised if they do that more timely and reliably on a third-party platform than their own app. That's not the case for any European or US transit authorities I know.

Can any other user of public transport in Paris comment?

Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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post #231

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It almost seems like we need laws that information about public services have to be available on a public website (as opposed to a third-party website that requires registration). I personally do not know anyone in real life with a twitter account (although I have one, I have not used it in over 15 years), I wonder how many people just go without this information and are angry that it's (seemingly) not available.

There's no way France have no clause in its law everywhere that can be creatively interpreted to be used for that purpose. But that won't get enforced unless there will be a better option than Twitter that average Paris Metro employees understand; they would not be dumb, but they would not care. Average people today can barely grasp the concept of a password.

Surely it shouldn't be to difficult to come up with a sort of plugin-type approach like I've seen in various 'comments' sections on existing websites:

Simply embed the 'update' feed on a page in the existing website and have some kind of admin panel where employees can easily CRUD some updates.

I guess because even this would not be 'free', twitter ends up winning.

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