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216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by stephen_g »

realityloop wrote: post #59
bilekas wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I have a tv of LG from the same period. I keep it dumb, not connected to the internet and just use an apple TV, so far it's a clean option. And it's always a good idea to have piHole up to, they usually have the block list updated with LG's and Samsungs urls.

The Gamers Nexus video explained that they will connect to nearby open SSID’s to send the data they have collected. So just not connecting it to your network may not be enough.

I hear this a lot as a rumour but has it actually ever been demonstrated in the wild?

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by llm_nerd »

touwer wrote: post #139

Funny, published on a site with 1745 'partners' who fully respect our privacy of course

As always - https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-som...

There is a very I-am-very-smart aspect to these predictable sorts of comments. And weirdly they always seem oddly intended to diminish the core concern being addressed.

"Oh your TV is listening to you and mapping your network and exfiltrating your data? Yeah, well, look at that website that has some ads on it! Boom!

Give up. The future is lost. Don't sweat the wiretapping TV."

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by JoshTriplett »

prmph wrote: post #88

Just don't buy a smart TV. Buy a good "dumb" TV (or just get a good large monitor), then hook it up to a set top box (with TV capabilities as needed).

That would be lovely. Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, nobody sells (for instance) high-quality 65"+ OLED non-"smart" TVs. "dumb TV" options are limited to older display technology.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by bzzzt »

amelius wrote: post #152
throw93947309 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. Why would you even connect TV to the network? It is well known for like 5 years. Smsrt TVs go through your movies library, and upload screenshots and filenames to internet. Some will start showing ads after firmware upgrade.

Did you know that ethernet can run over HDMI? It's called HDMI Ethernet Channel (HEC).

Yes, but support in devices and cables is very limited.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by hypfer »

tremon wrote: post #182
hypfer wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Because your position of no ill-intent does not sound like you're on the same side as I am.

If your position is "We do not want these kinds of stuff to exist/happen", then we are.

If your position however is "Witchhunts are fun, and decisions and dialogue should be driven by emotions", then indeed we are misaligned by a few centuries.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by tremon »

hypfer wrote: post #186
tremon wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> Because your position of no ill-intent does not sound like you're on the same side as I am. If your position is "We do not want these kinds of stuff to exist/happen", then we are. If your position however is "Witchhunts are fun, and decisions and dialogue should be driven by emotions", then indeed we are misaligned by a few centuries.

Do not put words in my mouth. Where in my post did I advocate for any form of action?

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by hk__2 »

llm_nerd wrote: post #183
touwer wrote: post #139

Funny, published on a site with 1745 'partners' who fully respect our privacy of course

As always - https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/we-should-improve-society-som... There is a very I-am-very-smart aspect to these predictable sorts of comments. And weirdly they always seem oddly intended to diminish the core concern being addressed. "Oh your TV is listening to you and mapping your network and exfiltrating your data? Yeah, well, look at that website that has some ads on it! Boom! Give up. The future is los…

> And weirdly they always seem oddly intended to diminish the core concern being addressed.

No they don’t. OP says it’s funny, that’s all.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by chimpontherun »

cyberpunk wrote: post #92
chimpontherun wrote: post #49

the only TV I have connected to the home network (guilty, I admit), Sony OLED 65, ARP floods my network about 12-15 hours after "turning off". On a plus side, it doesn't appear to be streaming anything out: no local DNS hits, not enough outgoing traffic for any meaningful audio stream The choice between privacy concerns and ineptly coded network stack is tough. But that's the choice we're forced to have

Why don’t you just use it as a display and have a more reputable device (e.g a mini pc or an apple tv) feeding it? I’m not forced to give my tv network access at all, since it doesn’t do anything other than display whatever the apple box outputs…

This is exactly what I do on the other TV, as I suggested in a different message in this thread. But this particular TV is mounted flush to the wall and there's physically no space for the apple TV anywhere near or behind it. Sacrifices we have to make

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by 05 »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #112
harha wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're streaming via AppleTV, why do you need to give the TV itself access to the network?

I use Home Assistant to turn on/off the TV via automations, sensors, etc. I could possibly do it via HDMI CEC, but I have a couple of Sony Bravia TVs that more often than not completely ignores that, so I prefer having control over assuming it happens.

You can do on/off using an IR blaster (broadlink integration with discrete on/off codes). It’s when you want to read volume etc things get trickier
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