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216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by like_any_other »

I will remind everyone again that weev was raided by the FBI, arrested, and had all electronics seized, before getting a chance to defend himself in court, all for the crime of publishing emails he found on unsecured URLs he was able to guess.

But we're allowing 1000x worse things, because what, there's a vague line about it buried deep in some EULA, which means laws no longer apply?

Lets treat them the same. Raid LG, seize all of their electronics, at least in the US (other countries are encouraged to do their own raids), arrest the executives, and after they're all in jail, and digital forensics are poring over their products and servers to find what else they did, they can argue in court how actually all these crimes are legal.

It's only fair.

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by cyberpunk »

chimpontherun wrote: post #49

the only TV I have connected to the home network (guilty, I admit), Sony OLED 65, ARP floods my network about 12-15 hours after "turning off". On a plus side, it doesn't appear to be streaming anything out: no local DNS hits, not enough outgoing traffic for any meaningful audio stream The choice between privacy concerns and ineptly coded network stack is tough. But that's the choice we're forced to have

Why don’t you just use it as a display and have a more reputable device (e.g a mini pc or an apple tv) feeding it? I’m not forced to give my tv network access at all, since it doesn’t do anything other than display whatever the apple box outputs…

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

tjpnz wrote: post #89
HelloUsername wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of your blocking still doesn't change the fact that your LG TV is actively trying to scan your local hardware, gathering IP-addresses of devices, wi-fi names and signal strengths, creating digital finger prints of the audio and video projected on your screen, recording audio through the internal microphone, even when the TV is in standby or without an internet connection, saving the collected data locally and upl…

Do transparent faraday cages exist?

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Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by harha »

8fingerlouie wrote: post #52

My TVs are on the IoT network so that I can control them from Home Assistant, but they're blocked from accessing the internet. DNS lookups are redirected or blocked (53 redirected to my local DNS resolver, 853 blocked), and DoH is blocked as best effort though it's hard to block HTTP DNS traffic, which again is why the devices are blocked in the firewall. All streaming is done via AppleTV, which is a platform I trust…

If you're streaming via AppleTV, why do you need to give the TV itself access to the network?

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by cindyllm »

like_any_other wrote: post #91

I will remind everyone again that weev was raided by the FBI, arrested, and had all electronics seized, before getting a chance to defend himself in court, all for the crime of publishing emails he found on unsecured URLs he was able to guess. But we're allowing 1000x worse things, because what, there's a vague line about it buried deep in some EULA, which means laws no longer apply? Lets treat them the same. Raid LG…

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Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by blaze33 »

Y-bar wrote: post #77

notebookcheck.net: > We value your privacy Shares my browsing info with 1745 "partners" with no clear way to opt out (which ought to be opt-in by the way to be compliant with ePrivacy and GDPR).

"We value your privacy" → "Your private data is valuable" (I guess)

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by exceptione »

realityloop wrote: post #59
bilekas wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I have a tv of LG from the same period. I keep it dumb, not connected to the internet and just use an apple TV, so far it's a clean option. And it's always a good idea to have piHole up to, they usually have the block list updated with LG's and Samsungs urls.

The Gamers Nexus video explained that they will connect to nearby open SSID’s to send the data they have collected. So just not connecting it to your network may not be enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

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Post by type0 »

shit_game wrote: post #71
nannal wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertisers are the reason we have this problem. The only way to stop them is legislation.

People could return to burning down enterprises that they find unsavory or detrimental to society, such as they did during the industrial revolution, but this is problematic in that it's violent and not something the modern person often considers as viable. A part of why people consider this unviable now is in-part due to the consequences of these surveilance technologies. It's difficult to accomplish a revolution wh…

“Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on”

- Larry Ellison (Oracle Corporation)

Re: 216M Spy TVs – The LG Smart TV Problem [video]

#100

Post by appcustodian2 »

mohsen1 wrote: post #94

I absolutely loathe my LG smart TV. Just switching to another input requires 3 button press. I hope someone uses their free time to hack the OS and offer a clean and simple interface to make it a “dumb” TV.

You're not wrong, but you could ask your favorite LLM to interact with the LG API's to switch the input for you. At least for my case, it was ~10 minutes of work to develop a small tray app that looks for a specific USB device and switches the TV input if it gets inserted. I don't really even touch the remote anymore
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