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Re: Nitter and XCancel resume service after legal advice

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Post by progval »

koyote wrote: post #310
numpad0 wrote: post #290

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There's no way France have no clause in its law everywhere that can be creatively interpreted to be used for that purpose. But that won't get enforced unless there will be a better option than Twitter that average Paris Metro employees understand; they would not be dumb, but they would not care. Average people today can barely grasp the concept of a password.

Surely it shouldn't be to difficult to come up with a sort of plugin-type approach like I've seen in various 'comments' sections on existing websites: Simply embed the 'update' feed on a page in the existing website and have some kind of admin panel where employees can easily CRUD some updates. I guess because even this would not be 'free', twitter ends up winning.

Or they already have that, but it's badly designed, bloated, or doesn't have employees assigned to it.

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Post by kitd »

echelon wrote: post #131
moolcool wrote: post #111

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Anyone remember back in the day when every platform had RSS feeds, and you could aggregate your Facebook and Twitter on sites like FriendFeed? “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish”

Google and Facebook fucked up the internet. The internet we had in the 90's and early 00's was amazing. Everything felt free, indie, hackable, composable, ingestible. You didn't worry about platforms because most platforms exposed their data via friendly APIs (remember when Reddit and Twitter had an API and that they encouraged people to actually use them?) RSS everywhere, websites with honest to god Bittorrent links…

> Google and Facebook fucked up the internet.

I'd say advertising has fucked up the Internet. Everything they (and plenty of others) have done has been to collect and sell personal data to advertising brokers.

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Post by DavCreator »

Markoff wrote: post #332

Yeah, I think I will stick with redirectors to working instance anyway, seems like safer option than stick with one specific instance. https://twit.0r.cx https://xxcancel.com

Glad you like xxcancel.com (I am the dev!). I just added xcancel.com back to the instances list. Can't wait to also add nitter.net back to it soon.

Do you have any suggestions for xxcancel.com?

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Post by misstuned »

quadrifoliate wrote: post #279
koyote wrote: post #231

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It almost seems like we need laws that information about public services have to be available on a public website (as opposed to a third-party website that requires registration). I personally do not know anyone in real life with a twitter account (although I have one, I have not used it in over 15 years), I wonder how many people just go without this information and are angry that it's (seemingly) not available.

> It almost seems like we need laws that information about public services have to be available on a public website Won't happen in the US/UK because the governments are in Elon's pockets. Won't happen in the EU because they are incapable of getting anything done. So unless you're in a jurisdiction other than the above three I wouldn't hold your breath about any laws being passed about this.

I'm in the UK and tired of basic public services like the railway company posting service updates to X first. I keep a bookmark to the local train company (Northern in my case) on XCancel but while it was down, I was a bit under-informed. The stuff is on their own website, but it seems to appear there after it appears on X, the layout is crap, and there's no way to contact the company other than via X.

A lot of private companies do the same thing - no way to effectively contact them privately, but as soon as you whinge publicly on X they're "on it". Octopus Energy is one of the worst for that.

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Post by brigandish »

gloosx wrote: post #146
codechicago277 wrote: post #105

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A few recent examples: https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/currencies/articles/bessen... https://theprint.in/world/us-military-says-it-completed-late... https://www.reuters.com/technology/brad-lightcap-leaving-ope... It’s still the go-to platform for public figures to broadcast unfortunately, so if you want to verify the original comments you need an alternate frontend or an X account.

Looking at these examples, I can't really see how this information was exclusive to X really: the currency intervention took place on July 31, during active market hours. It was immediately detected by global trading desks and reported by major news wires like Reuters and Bloomberg as it happened. When CENTCOM issued the statement regarding the strikes on IRGC targets, the text went live on the official U.S. Central…

The competition is between:

- needing to look in several places

- looking in one place

Easy to see why Twitter wins, even when information isn't exclusive, which it often is (I would've suggested video involved in news events, which is often impossible to find elsewhere but easily gathered on Twitter).

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Post by Melatonic »

pmlnr wrote: post #171
tolerance wrote: post #88

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What are incentives for the average person? Their logic seems straightforward: they want to be where their friends are at. And all they want to do there is cycle through their base emotions at a whim's pace. Whatever politics or technologies that make alternative platforms "better" to some people doesn't matter to most. The idea that new platforms should even have the "millions" (read: the masses) in mind comes acros…

> What are incentives for the average person? Their logic seems straightforward: they want to be where their friends are at This is some sort of absolute, fundamental difference between the early web and now, at least how I experienced it as a teen in the late 90s in Hungary. Back then I made a site, because you wanted to make something of my own, in my style, as I wanted. There was nobody else online from my friends…

That's kind of the same thing though - the people you wanted to interact with were there. They just were a different cohort than what you might find on something like Instagram today.

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Post by brigandish »

alex1138 wrote: post #285
mitxela wrote: post #238

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Institutional misincentives at Google. People are promoted for launching a product, and they're promoted away from the product they launched, and nobody wants to maintain it since you don't get promoted for maintaining a product someone else launched.

I had to 'vouch' this comment. It was [dead]. Why? Who sits here lurking this site flagging every single thing they disagree with?

I've seen several strangely dead comments today, perhaps the automated filter has been updated and has some gremlins?

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Post by Melatonic »

mitxela wrote: post #246
deadbabe wrote: post #104

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The platform is the people, not the tech.

The network is the people, the platform is the tech. Which do you need? If you're engaging in discussions you need the network. If you're reading municipal weather warnings you don't really, it's just a data source that can be copied anywhere.

Probably where twitter is going honestly. Not unlike MySpace pivot to music and Facebook being used exclusively for Messenger
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