Asahi Linux on M3 • Hacker News Board

VCFundedGenYer wrote: post #64

ajross wrote: post #18

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> they used to let you run Windows! They let you run Windows when they were losing in the market and needed a path to migration for users of the winning platform. Once they started winning, they stopped. Conversely, Microsoft refused to interoperate with Linux. Until Linux became the clear winner in the datacenter space. Now they have WSL and actually work pretty well as a cross-platform development environment.

Microsoft is being all kumbaya right now for those exact same reasons - they are hemorrhaging users to Linux and macOS. WSL only exists because of this. In the 90s and 2000s, they considered Linux a cancer, and only kept macOS alive for antitrust reasons.

"Developers developers developers!"

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by meerita » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 4:55 PM UTC

kylec wrote: post #32

meerita wrote: post #25

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My phone autocorrected Ternus to Torvalds, what a catch!

Also it's "Ternus" with an "n"

Fixed. Thanks!

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by basisword » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 4:56 PM UTC

saghm wrote: post #42

basisword wrote: post #41

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Because it's a lazy response. OP might not be a software developer. Should they learn complex software engineering to try and contribute or should they call out a missing feature that's important to them so the actual developers have some data on what to prioritise?

It's no lazier than saying "Still no support"

a) that's feedback

b) it's useful in a comment thread like this so people can quickly see what the 'caveats' mentioned in the title of the post are

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 4:59 PM UTC

sansah wrote: post #12

whatever1 wrote: post #5

Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community? So much wasted effort when they can just share a pdf.

They want control on the walled garden. When was the last time apple did anything for public unless forced by FCC. Now there is no hope since they can simply donate to trump.

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Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by burtness » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 4:59 PM UTC

cute_boi wrote: post #67

robertoandred wrote: post #48

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Apple has a long long history of supporting open source.

can you please tell us what have they done for open source except LLVM.

and CUPS

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by jdeaton » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 4:59 PM UTC

This is really incredible work but so frustrating that its necessary

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by biorach » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 5:00 PM UTC

bel8 wrote: post #66

biorach wrote: post #61

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> not locking you out is not a big heroic move you're trying to picture here. The person you're replying to didn't say that. Please don't misrepresent and please keep it respectful

Regardless, saying it would be too much effort for Apple is laughable at best. Even more so when Apple used to release such docs in the past when it was much less financially capable. They just don't care.

> Regardless, saying it would be too much effort for Apple

That's not what they said. Please don't misrepresent

> is laughabe

And this disparaging language about commenters is not OK. Please stop.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

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Post by juiceland » Sun, Sep 06, 2026, 5:00 PM UTC

cute_boi wrote: post #67

robertoandred wrote: post #48

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Apple has a long long history of supporting open source.

can you please tell us what have they done for open source except LLVM.

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