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Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#12

Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community? So much wasted effort when they can just share a pdf.

They want control on the walled garden. When was the last time apple did anything for public unless forced by FCC. Now there is no hope since they can simply donate to trump.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#13
post #12

Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community? So much wasted effort when they can just share a pdf.

They want control on the walled garden. When was the last time apple did anything for public unless forced by FCC. Now there is no hope since they can simply donate to trump.

Apple made some changes specifically for Asahi Linux to make it more robust.

I believe it was Hector Martin who discussed it on Mastodon a while ago.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#14

Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community? So much wasted effort when they can just share a pdf.

I expect they don't actually care whether or not people run Linux on macs. I mean they used to let you run Windows!

Probably the real reason is just that it's extra work - both in terms of producing the docs, and in dealing with complaints when they change things. From their point of view it's extra work with no benefit to them.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#15

Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community? So much wasted effort when they can just share a pdf.

> Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community?

Because then they'll have to compete with Linux, which opens them up to someone else making a cheaper computer that does the same stuff.

I mean, I'm typing this on a junky Raptor Lake laptop I found on eBay for $220. Would I buy a Neo or MBP to replace it just to run the same software stack? Probably not.

If you believe OS X is the best environment and Apple Silicon will remain the best hardware in perpetuity, it seems silly for Apple not to allow some experimentation. Apple executives, to be blunt, know better. Lean times are always ahead.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#16

Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community? So much wasted effort when they can just share a pdf.

It wouldn’t even be a problem for Apple to support Linux. Linux’s desktop market share has never been a threat to Apple at all. I hope Ternus, being the engineer he is, opens this up.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#18

Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community? So much wasted effort when they can just share a pdf.

I expect they don't actually care whether or not people run Linux on macs. I mean they used to let you run Windows! Probably the real reason is just that it's extra work - both in terms of producing the docs, and in dealing with complaints when they change things. From their point of view it's extra work with no benefit to them.

> they used to let you run Windows!

They let you run Windows when they were losing in the market and needed a path to migration for users of the winning platform. Once they started winning, they stopped.

Conversely, Microsoft refused to interoperate with Linux. Until Linux became the clear winner in the datacenter space. Now they have WSL and actually work pretty well as a cross-platform development environment.

Re: Asahi Linux on M3

#19
post #16

Why Apple does not at least provide the specs to the community? So much wasted effort when they can just share a pdf.

It wouldn’t even be a problem for Apple to support Linux. Linux’s desktop market share has never been a threat to Apple at all. I hope Ternus, being the engineer he is, opens this up.

I don't think Linus Torvalds has any sway on what Apple does. Or do you mean John Ternus, the new CEO?
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