Instead of rolling back the ineffective and draconian security measures to pre-2001, they simply decided to monetize it. That tracks for this administration.
It was monetized quite a while back.
Gateside by TSA Precheck
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#42I just had to pay to renew my TSA PreCheck. Because why? They already know my threat risk (zero), and in paying them again nothing changed except they took more money from me.
Allegedly there's an actual re-evaluation during the renewal. For example if you start showing up on terrorist watchlists your next renewal might not go through. I think this is kinda true because my wife was involved in a customs incident and then was unable to renew pre check for a bunch of years, thought that was never given as a reason.
Of course, them doing it like that makes the security theater even more obvious, since they don't bother doing anything about it until renewal time.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
All of the post 9-11 measures other then: - securing the cockpit - training staff to resist hijacking - ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers Are worthless theater. But, if you don’t accept that, and believe that more physical passenger screening is important, adjusting the level of screening based on a per-passenger threat assessment seems reasonable.
How is ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers not also theater? Airlines openly sell unattended cargo space on passenger flights and it's screened the same way as checked luggage.
Do you get to specify the plane it goes on? Can you purchase it untraceable, the way you can you a plane ticket with a prepaid card, check in and check luggage without any ID?
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Allegedly there's an actual re-evaluation during the renewal. For example if you start showing up on terrorist watchlists your next renewal might not go through. I think this is kinda true because my wife was involved in a customs incident and then was unable to renew pre check for a bunch of years, thought that was never given as a reason.
Mind sharing what the incident was? Carrying too many valuables?
She innocently brought something from a country where it was legal to a country where it wasn't. It wasn't an obvious illegal thing and she voluntarily told customs that she was bringing it.
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#45Instead of rolling back the ineffective and draconian security measures to pre-2001, they simply decided to monetize it. That tracks for this administration.
We don’t live in a pre-9/11 world. There’s no going back to that. If well implemented This seems a reasonable compromise.
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#46Instead of rolling back the ineffective and draconian security measures to pre-2001, they simply decided to monetize it. That tracks for this administration.
This new service is provided free to people who already have TSA Precheck. What I would like to know is if it's also available to those who have Global Entry. I let my TSA Precheck lapse after getting Global Entry because I saw no benefit to keeping it.
It is. With Global Entry, you have a KTN.
> Who is Eligible
> TSA PreCheck members and those with Known Traveler Numbers (KTNs).
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#47We will be happy to scan your face, x-ray your belongings, and add your latest known location to our database — no extra charge!
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#48Instead of rolling back the ineffective and draconian security measures to pre-2001, they simply decided to monetize it. That tracks for this administration.
This new service is provided free to people who already have TSA Precheck. What I would like to know is if it's also available to those who have Global Entry. I let my TSA Precheck lapse after getting Global Entry because I saw no benefit to keeping it.
It says “to those with Known Traveler Numbers”
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#49This is funny to see because this is exactly how it was before 9/11.
It's still worse; back then you didn't need to register at least a day in advance, and you didn't need a KTN.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
How, exactly, is it this administration's fault? They didn't create Precheck (which dates back to the Obama admin iirc), and this new facet of Precheck is explicitly stated to not cost extra. So I don't see how you can possibly blame the current administration for monetizing the security regime. At most they are continuing a bad policy that others started. And to be clear, I think that Precheck is a stupid-ass progra…
All of the post 9-11 measures other then: - securing the cockpit - training staff to resist hijacking - ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers Are worthless theater. But, if you don’t accept that, and believe that more physical passenger screening is important, adjusting the level of screening based on a per-passenger threat assessment seems reasonable.
Yesterday, I saw an interesting Lufthansa training film from the 1970s explaining how aircraft crews should respond to hijacking. (In the early 1970s, hijackings occurred weekly.) Most of the recommendations from security experts turned out to be exactly wrong for 9/11: Don't attempt anything against the hijackers. Do everything the hijackers demand. Passengers should follow the instructions of the hijackers and should not try to be heros. On the other hand, they described locked cabin doors with TV monitors.