Instead of rolling back the ineffective and draconian security measures to pre-2001, they simply decided to monetize it. That tracks for this administration.
It's free?
As long as you have TSA precheck or a known traveler number, which costs money.
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#12I just had to pay to renew my TSA PreCheck. Because why? They already know my threat risk (zero), and in paying them again nothing changed except they took more money from me.
Allegedly there's an actual re-evaluation during the renewal. For example if you start showing up on terrorist watchlists your next renewal might not go through.
I think this is kinda true because my wife was involved in a customs incident and then was unable to renew pre check for a bunch of years, thought that was never given as a reason.
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#13Instead of rolling back the ineffective and draconian security measures to pre-2001, they simply decided to monetize it. That tracks for this administration.
How, exactly, is it this administration's fault? They didn't create Precheck (which dates back to the Obama admin iirc), and this new facet of Precheck is explicitly stated to not cost extra. So I don't see how you can possibly blame the current administration for monetizing the security regime. At most they are continuing a bad policy that others started. And to be clear, I think that Precheck is a stupid-ass progra…
All of the post 9-11 measures other then:
- securing the cockpit
- training staff to resist hijacking
- ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers
Are worthless theater.
But, if you don’t accept that, and believe that more physical passenger screening is important, adjusting the level of screening based on a per-passenger threat assessment seems reasonable.
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
How, exactly, is it this administration's fault? They didn't create Precheck (which dates back to the Obama admin iirc), and this new facet of Precheck is explicitly stated to not cost extra. So I don't see how you can possibly blame the current administration for monetizing the security regime. At most they are continuing a bad policy that others started. And to be clear, I think that Precheck is a stupid-ass progra…
All of the post 9-11 measures other then: - securing the cockpit - training staff to resist hijacking - ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers Are worthless theater. But, if you don’t accept that, and believe that more physical passenger screening is important, adjusting the level of screening based on a per-passenger threat assessment seems reasonable.
No selective HUMINT is worthwhile?
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
How, exactly, is it this administration's fault? They didn't create Precheck (which dates back to the Obama admin iirc), and this new facet of Precheck is explicitly stated to not cost extra. So I don't see how you can possibly blame the current administration for monetizing the security regime. At most they are continuing a bad policy that others started. And to be clear, I think that Precheck is a stupid-ass progra…
All of the post 9-11 measures other then: - securing the cockpit - training staff to resist hijacking - ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers Are worthless theater. But, if you don’t accept that, and believe that more physical passenger screening is important, adjusting the level of screening based on a per-passenger threat assessment seems reasonable.
> ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers
You mean you used to be able to just send a bag without flying yourself, and have someone else pick it up at the destination airport? Was this something that people did intentionally or did it happen accidentally?
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
All of the post 9-11 measures other then: - securing the cockpit - training staff to resist hijacking - ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers Are worthless theater. But, if you don’t accept that, and believe that more physical passenger screening is important, adjusting the level of screening based on a per-passenger threat assessment seems reasonable.
> ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers You mean you used to be able to just send a bag without flying yourself, and have someone else pick it up at the destination airport? Was this something that people did intentionally or did it happen accidentally?
You could check in, check your bags, and then walk out. They would not remove the bag from the plane.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
All of the post 9-11 measures other then: - securing the cockpit - training staff to resist hijacking - ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers Are worthless theater. But, if you don’t accept that, and believe that more physical passenger screening is important, adjusting the level of screening based on a per-passenger threat assessment seems reasonable.
No selective HUMINT is worthwhile?
I'm not sure what you mean
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#19This is great.
But airports are super busy and crowded these days. Imagine all the extra people if everyone took advantage of this
I don’t remember how it looked back in the day when you didn’t need Gateside.
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#20You have to book it ahead of time?! What goober designed a system like this?