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Re: Gateside by TSA Precheck

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Post by unsnap_biceps »

firesteelrain wrote: post #19

This is great. But airports are super busy and crowded these days. Imagine all the extra people if everyone took advantage of this I don’t remember how it looked back in the day when you didn’t need Gateside.

It's obnoxious enough to go through security and meet someone at their gate that for major airports, it was only done for picking up kids or old folks. It's not going to move the needle on how crowded it feels.

for smaller airports, it won't matter, my local airport has four gates, the terminal is maybe 300 feet end to end, so everyone currently waits outside of security, but it's like 10-20 folks. the few that make it to the gate won't matter at all.

Re: Gateside by TSA Precheck

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Post by chronc7403 »

flyingshelf wrote: post #26
lokar wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could check in, check your bags, and then walk out. They would not remove the bag from the plane.

FWIW your bags may still occasionally travel without you (but you still have to board A flight)

> FWIW your bags may still occasionally travel without you (but you still have to board A flight)

This is false.

If you check into the airport early (4+ hours) your bag may go on an earlier flight without you.

And you can decide not to board your original flight.

Re: Gateside by TSA Precheck

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Post by YZF »

unsnap_biceps wrote: post #29
lokar wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could check in, check your bags, and then walk out. They would not remove the bag from the plane.

Isn't that the case today? They're loading the baggage while people board and they don't hold the bag until you get your ticket scanned in.

If the owner of a bag does not board the bag is removed.

Re: Gateside by TSA Precheck

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

Mobius01 wrote: post #9
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How, exactly, is it this administration's fault? They didn't create Precheck (which dates back to the Obama admin iirc), and this new facet of Precheck is explicitly stated to not cost extra. So I don't see how you can possibly blame the current administration for monetizing the security regime. At most they are continuing a bad policy that others started. And to be clear, I think that Precheck is a stupid-ass progra…

I didn’t blame the administration for starting Pre-Check: I’m faulting them for not ending it, instead adding another feature to it. The new gate access is free - for TSA Pre-Check enrollees. Meaning this will increase demand for the service. They could have done the population a (rare) solid and found a way to phase out the security theater.

You said:

> they simply decided to monetize it. That tracks for this administration.

But this administration didn't cause the monetization. I am fine with criticizing them for not ending the TSA - I too think they should end it. But your post implied some kind of corruption angle, one that is specifically due to this administration. And I don't think that criticism holds true. One must criticize them for only the things they've actually done, imo.

Re: Gateside by TSA Precheck

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Post by the_sleaze_ »

flyingshelf wrote: post #27
xyzelement wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allegedly there's an actual re-evaluation during the renewal. For example if you start showing up on terrorist watchlists your next renewal might not go through. I think this is kinda true because my wife was involved in a customs incident and then was unable to renew pre check for a bunch of years, thought that was never given as a reason.

Mind sharing what the incident was? Carrying too many valuables?

smuggling cheese and dried sausage?

Re: Gateside by TSA Precheck

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Post by acwan93 »

I read somewhere that Pittsburgh airport was trying to do something like this cause the stores gateside were not available anywhere else.

In any case, like with airport lounges, it seems like “everyone” has some form of credit card that gives them Precheck/Global Entry for free, further dividing the commercial air experience.

Re: Gateside by TSA Precheck

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Post by AlotOfReading »

lokar wrote: post #13
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How, exactly, is it this administration's fault? They didn't create Precheck (which dates back to the Obama admin iirc), and this new facet of Precheck is explicitly stated to not cost extra. So I don't see how you can possibly blame the current administration for monetizing the security regime. At most they are continuing a bad policy that others started. And to be clear, I think that Precheck is a stupid-ass progra…

All of the post 9-11 measures other then: - securing the cockpit - training staff to resist hijacking - ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers Are worthless theater. But, if you don’t accept that, and believe that more physical passenger screening is important, adjusting the level of screening based on a per-passenger threat assessment seems reasonable.

How is ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers not also theater? Airlines openly sell unattended cargo space on passenger flights and it's screened the same way as checked luggage.

Re: Gateside by TSA Precheck

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Post by anonymousiam »

Mobius01 wrote: post #3

Instead of rolling back the ineffective and draconian security measures to pre-2001, they simply decided to monetize it. That tracks for this administration.

This new service is provided free to people who already have TSA Precheck. What I would like to know is if it's also available to those who have Global Entry. I let my TSA Precheck lapse after getting Global Entry because I saw no benefit to keeping it.

Re: Gateside by TSA Precheck

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Post by lokar »

lokar wrote: post #13
bigstrat2003 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How, exactly, is it this administration's fault? They didn't create Precheck (which dates back to the Obama admin iirc), and this new facet of Precheck is explicitly stated to not cost extra. So I don't see how you can possibly blame the current administration for monetizing the security regime. At most they are continuing a bad policy that others started. And to be clear, I think that Precheck is a stupid-ass progra…

All of the post 9-11 measures other then: - securing the cockpit - training staff to resist hijacking - ensuring checked bags have boarded passengers Are worthless theater. But, if you don’t accept that, and believe that more physical passenger screening is important, adjusting the level of screening based on a per-passenger threat assessment seems reasonable.

I should add, two other items that I think were added in this time period, which are not security related, but IMO are good are:

- seriously, you need to follow the instructions of the staff on board

- don't get (very) drunk before or after boarding, don't bring and drink your own alcohol

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