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so it used enflame hardware?

The policy of the US to block Nvidia should have been called. The "Let a thousand flowers bloom" executive directive.

A very stable genius

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Oh. Administration corrupted up to it's very core? Check. Nihilism of anyone not part of the proper color, gender, whatever agenda? Check. Unlawful surveillance? Check. Sending totally innocent citizens to prison with many of them dying mysteriously? Check. Killing innocent people in the streets simply because they dare protest peacefully? Check. Welcome to North Korea! Oups. Confused. Welcome to the GREAT US of A! W…

You need to go back to school and demand a refund if you think any of that is "true capitalism." Better yet, just go back to Reddit.

It's kinda funny to hear these protests. In a "true fascist" society, you wouldn't be surprised to see someone killed in the name of political power. But in a "true capitalist" society, you're shocked that money triumphs over virtue? It's not a "virtuist" society, is it?

Authoritarian capitalists exist. Larry Ellison, Alex Karp, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg - they love when you think that capitalism plays by written rules. It helps them use your tax dollars to pay for their surveillance services. It helps them sell you B2C products that degrade the moral fabric of America, and rewrite legislation through online influence campaigns. You can say it "isn't capitalism" because you don't agree with it politically, but the accrual of capital is precisely how all 4 of those men became powerful. Their influence on social media is why they're able to reframe the national discussion how they want. Their money is what lets them turn political willpower into a business, or a rubber chicken into a politician.

After all, what is Reddit or 4chan if not one big capitalist influence campaign? Do you really think product reviews and political ragebait is driven by some natural and benevolent social force that we can't see or feel?

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That’s a fair question, but it seems that it’s not yet necessary. See here https://dylancastillo.co/posts/pelicanmaxxing.html https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jul/22/

I don't think this argument is a good one though, as it would be quite natural for a lab rhat want to macimize the performance of their model on the pelican bench to train it for “text-to-svg simple image generation” rather than just “pelicans on bicycle”.

That is the point though, if labs are maximizing svg image generation capabilities it is a very good thing. That's a general skill that is useful. So assuming they aren't specifically maximizing pelican bicycle svgs (and it doesn't look like they are) then incentives are aligned that the "benchmark" is measuring a general desirable capability.

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Caveman invented fire, the wheel, domesticated wild plants and animals, organised society, survived the Toba catastrophe, cooked food, and was having sex ages before you and me. Don't write him off as stupid.

And I wonder how they actually spoke. Since there was no visual communications medium except for cave art. (Some of which is very excellent. Try drawing 3d curved horns in perspective.) So people would have used verbal communication more. Also no written word. So one would expect there to be quite a lot of oral tradition. Like people reciting poem form epics. If we assume the time is before farming, population densit…

The Pleiades cluster is called the seven sisters in Greek. That's curious, because the human eye under the best conditions can discern only six stars in there. Even more curious, the aboriginal Australians also called this cluster the seven sisters.

Ancient Greeks' and aboriginal Australians' last common ancestors split about 60,000 years ago. And astronomers tell us that 60,000 years ago, there were seven discernable stars in that cluster.

One could this conclude not only is speech likely 60,000 years old, but also that the tale of the seven sisters might be a tale from so long ago.

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Seeing the model use "caveman speak" in its thoughts to save tokens is hilarious.

"Why use many word when few word do trick?" is actually a legit tech optimization now!

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If the distillation "attacks" created useful inputs to open weight models, ai-2027 was directionally correct that the Chinese would find ways to extract IP from western firms. (Scaled account creation and grinding outputs etc is not a dramatic story element as spies, though!) Whether the distillation has constituted "attacks" or has or will meet the bar of "stealing" IP is not super interesting to me, though.

The idea that distillation is a significant contributor to the capabilities of the Chinese models is not true. Kimi K3 came out 2 weeks after Fable and uses a number of novel NN architecture innovations.

That may be true, though Anthropic reported 3.4 million exchanges with Moonshot months before Fable.

Why bother creating hundreds of (presumably paid) accounts and the tooling to create and consume the data if not of tangible value to their core mission?

https://www.anthropic.com/news/detecting-and-preventing-dist...

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I think the tech analogy for frontier models is going to be super computers. Super computers keep getting better but most people don't need them for most things.

2000's supercomputer is today's (highest end) smartphone performance tho

Yeah. And if you compare the AI you can run on a high end smart phone today to AI of the 2000s, today's smart phone probably wins.

In 10 or 20 years maybe we'll all be running AI models that are currently considered "frontier" on smart phone type devices.

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And I wonder how they actually spoke. Since there was no visual communications medium except for cave art. (Some of which is very excellent. Try drawing 3d curved horns in perspective.) So people would have used verbal communication more. Also no written word. So one would expect there to be quite a lot of oral tradition. Like people reciting poem form epics. If we assume the time is before farming, population densit…

The Pleiades cluster is called the seven sisters in Greek. That's curious, because the human eye under the best conditions can discern only six stars in there. Even more curious, the aboriginal Australians also called this cluster the seven sisters. Ancient Greeks' and aboriginal Australians' last common ancestors split about 60,000 years ago. And astronomers tell us that 60,000 years ago, there were seven discernabl…

Interestingly, back in my ill-spent youth, a few of my fellow astronomers and I were out in a very, very dark-sky location in the late 70s/early 80s, and we were able to consistently count and draw between 9 and 11 stars. Although we would tease those who could see 11 stars as using averted imagination. :-) Today, if I can see six stars, it's an okay night in an okay sky.

fwiw, if you can get out to dark skies where you can see fifth- or sixth-magnitude stars with the naked eye, I highly recommend getting out there when it's a low-moisture atmosphere and the Milky Way through Cassiopeia and Perseus is vertical, as it's a rather dramatic sight of this stream of stars heading down to the northern horizon.

The summertime Milky Way overhead down to Sagittarius tends to get all the love, but the wintertime Milky Way is also visually rich and worth spending time on.

https://www.constellation-guide.com/pleiades-the-seven-siste...

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#249
Just got benchmarks done for German langauge eval index i help maintain. Hy4 is a big improvement over h3 but still below Deepseek pro and Significantly below GLM 5.3 Flash .

hy4 ranks ~14th overall

https://dach.peerbench.ai/compare?models=tencent%2Fhy4-previ...

https://dach.peerbench.ai/models/tencent/hy4-preview

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That’s a fair question, but it seems that it’s not yet necessary. See here https://dylancastillo.co/posts/pelicanmaxxing.html https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jul/22/

I don't think this argument is a good one though, as it would be quite natural for a lab rhat want to macimize the performance of their model on the pelican bench to train it for “text-to-svg simple image generation” rather than just “pelicans on bicycle”.

https://xkcd.com/810/
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