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What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)

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Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)

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Post by m4rtink »

pbkompasz wrote: post #26
cortesoft wrote: post #14

I always feel so disconnected to my fellow humans when I hear people longing for "simpler times" where they are just out in nature with no technology or modern tools. I would be miserable living simply like that. I don't like spending too much time in nature, I get hot and sweaty and itchy and bothered by bugs. I am always wishing to be building something with electronics, or playing a game, or watching a show or mov…

> Not sure from the page but I rode one coal powered steam train in Poland for “fun” and i wish i never did. It was an open carriage trip in koszalin and the pollution it did was such that coal particles rained on everyone. It was awful and I don’t get the nostalgia of riding such an obsolete vehicle. I was so outraged about it I told my wife the experience was like trying to experience a big pre industrial city with…

Aww, you don't get it - steam trains are so cool! :)

Just don't get the embers into your eyes and it will be fine. :)

Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)

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Post by phrotoma »

WJW wrote: post #13
phrotoma wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure sign of llm free writing, baffling sentence construction.

Them damn gen alphas having no sense of punctuation! Back in my day, which was when Millenialism was at its heyday, we used to put commas everywhere we, well, damn, pleased!

Honestly I'm so old that I'm not sure if this remark is satire or an actual attempt to tell me that I'm out of touch. Is writing like this considered normal now?

Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)

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Animats wrote: post #82
t098i3 wrote: post #62

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...this commenter has never worked in manufacturing or studied materials science, and it shows. Or, I'd wager, dropped a 3D printed resin part on a hard floor and watched it shatter like glass.

I-beam made from PLA with 3D belt printer.[1] Can be looked at. I-beam made from steel with rolling mill.[2] Can hold up large building. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ-h-ErqrEg [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfaqrVFnQBQ

Well, that is going at the problem from the wrong direction - you should use a 3D printer not to print everything, rather to print tools and fittings to manufacture what you need from local resources.

In this case for example a saw making tool & make the beam from local wood using 3D printed gauges.

Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)

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Post by m4rtink »

ErroneousBosh wrote: post #84
Animats wrote: post #39

Title is unrelated to content. If you want "a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools" read "Walkaway", by Cory Doctorow. This is the 3D printer fantasy future, where everything can be made easily with small and easily available high-tech equipment. It sort of works in the story. But in reality, 3D printers aren't that good. Somewhere, you need aluminum smelters, steel mills, and copper mines. Those don't scal…

> Those don't scale down well to desktop size. If you're going to smelt aluminium on your desktop you're definitely going to want three phase power into your house, and probably some sort of asbestos tile to put it on. Probably quite a good extractor fan too, Shake'n'Vac isn't going to shift that odour.

We made some commemorative coins from lead, melted in a microwave oven & poured into silicone mold. The mold was created from a 3D printed mandrel.

Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)

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Post by chaostheory »

skeledrew wrote: post #68
chaostheory wrote: post #11

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Centralizing populations helps with energy and transportation efficiency, which is important if you care about the environment.

No need for a lot of transportation as we have good communication.

What about physical goods?

Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)

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Post by chaostheory »

ux266478 wrote: post #30
chaostheory wrote: post #11

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Centralizing populations helps with energy and transportation efficiency, which is important if you care about the environment.

But can't sustain itself. The larger it is, the larger the diffuse buffer it needs to support itself, and this diffuse buffer naturally spreads out as well. It's the natural flow of things to do so.

It’s far more sustainable than the suburbs

Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)

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Post by owebmaster »

phrotoma wrote: post #92
WJW wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Them damn gen alphas having no sense of punctuation! Back in my day, which was when Millenialism was at its heyday, we used to put commas everywhere we, well, damn, pleased!

Honestly I'm so old that I'm not sure if this remark is satire or an actual attempt to tell me that I'm out of touch. Is writing like this considered normal now?

Not normal but some people just can't leave Reddit.

Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)

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Post by t098i3 »

m4rtink wrote: post #94
Animats wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I-beam made from PLA with 3D belt printer.[1] Can be looked at. I-beam made from steel with rolling mill.[2] Can hold up large building. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ-h-ErqrEg [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfaqrVFnQBQ

Well, that is going at the problem from the wrong direction - you should use a 3D printer not to print everything, rather to print tools and fittings to manufacture what you need from local resources. In this case for example a saw making tool & make the beam from local wood using 3D printed gauges.

Wood you harvest and cut yourself is not going to match an I beam on strength, you need engineered wood for that, which involves adhesives and composites.

Not to mention, lots of places on earth don't have local wood suitable for construction...

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