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What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)
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Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)
#62Title is unrelated to content. If you want "a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools" read "Walkaway", by Cory Doctorow. This is the 3D printer fantasy future, where everything can be made easily with small and easily available high-tech equipment. It sort of works in the story. But in reality, 3D printers aren't that good. Somewhere, you need aluminum smelters, steel mills, and copper mines. Those don't scal…
> Somewhere, you need aluminum smelters, steel mills, and copper mines. Why? We already have plenty of materials that can, are close, or have potential pathways for functional substitutes depending on the application? We are already pretty reliably able to print metal with machines no bigger than a fridge. What happens when a curable resin or impregnated plastic can sufficiently replace steel/aluminum/copper for func…
...this commenter has never worked in manufacturing or studied materials science, and it shows.
Or, I'd wager, dropped a 3D printed resin part on a hard floor and watched it shatter like glass.
Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)
#63I always feel so disconnected to my fellow humans when I hear people longing for "simpler times" where they are just out in nature with no technology or modern tools. I would be miserable living simply like that. I don't like spending too much time in nature, I get hot and sweaty and itchy and bothered by bugs. I am always wishing to be building something with electronics, or playing a game, or watching a show or mov…
Good thing your ancestors did not think like that!
I'm sure they did.
Buddhist's view everyday existence within samsara (the cycle of rebirth) as inherently marked by dissatisfaction, pain, and impermanence.
Those kinds of beliefs reflect the lived reality of our ancestors.
Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)
#64Humans weren't built to live in massive societies with 100s of millions of people. No wonder we love minecraft and Satisfactory and playing murder-hobos in ttrpgs. I would be in favor of restructuring society to be in smaller units, communities where people know and understand eachother, but nobody has that power. One thing I disagree with "We won’t live in small villages with cobbled streets en masse anymore because…
Humans weren't built at all.
Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)
#65Nonsensical drum circle naivety.
Go to some of the poorer parts of the world and live the life of a subsistence farmer for a while.
There is a reason people move to cities, and it generally involves their children not starving to death.
Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)
#66There is a persistent point that this article makes really well: numbers. And here, bigger seems to be worse. More people equals feebler interactions, worse social life, more alienation between citizens and government. It's not the full story, but this simple rule is a very solid first approximation that has worked fine for me. The relatively small country where I moved has an ok government. Personally, I've found that small towns work well for me, and I've chosen job and residence based on that principle. I wouldn't mind a countryside cabin for hunting-gathering with friends during weekends :-) .
At the same time, I like global shipping, the Internet, good highways, and I definitely hate tariffs. I don't think we need to be disconnected to be happy. We just need to make the right choices where it matters.
Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)
#67What’s that first sentence? I can’t find the breaks.
I had 0 issue reading it. Actually that's how I write as well.
Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)
#68Humans weren't built to live in massive societies with 100s of millions of people. No wonder we love minecraft and Satisfactory and playing murder-hobos in ttrpgs. I would be in favor of restructuring society to be in smaller units, communities where people know and understand eachother, but nobody has that power. One thing I disagree with "We won’t live in small villages with cobbled streets en masse anymore because…
Centralizing populations helps with energy and transportation efficiency, which is important if you care about the environment.
No need for a lot of transportation as we have good communication.
Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)
#69Humans weren't built to live in massive societies with 100s of millions of people. No wonder we love minecraft and Satisfactory and playing murder-hobos in ttrpgs. I would be in favor of restructuring society to be in smaller units, communities where people know and understand eachother, but nobody has that power. One thing I disagree with "We won’t live in small villages with cobbled streets en masse anymore because…
> Humans weren't built to live in massive societies with 100s of millions of people. Humans were built to socialize and live in societies though. It's part of our own nature to group up and form communities.
Even for the social butterfly, the number of others someone can actually communicate with is capped at a reasonably low number.
Re: What we want is a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools (2022)
#70Title is unrelated to content. If you want "a hunter gatherer lifestyle with space age tools" read "Walkaway", by Cory Doctorow. This is the 3D printer fantasy future, where everything can be made easily with small and easily available high-tech equipment. It sort of works in the story. But in reality, 3D printers aren't that good. Somewhere, you need aluminum smelters, steel mills, and copper mines. Those don't scal…
That reminds me of another novel called "The Diamond Age" by Neal Stephenson where everyone has a molecular assembler (i.e. nanotech or 3D printers on steroids) in their home. Putting aside the grey goo gone wild tropes, one thing that I suspect was realistic about the novel was that there were still rich people and poor people. Many people were still very unhappy and dissatisfied. Still the criminals and the corrupt…
> You'd think that people would realize by now that material wealth (we've long since surpassed basic needs) does not bring happiness.
This has been proven false for most people - money does literally buy happiness for the majority of people: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2016976118
There is a minority of people where higher amounts of money does not buy more happiness, usually in connection with emotional pain or struggle: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2208661120