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Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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They arguably have more free speech rights than the average person with citizens united..

How so?

Because corps can donate unlimited money to super pacs while regular people have to pay for medical expenses (in addition to inflation, DOGEd government programs, gambling addictions, AI layoffs, etc) that keep them from having a political voice commensurate to institutions and financial whales. Regular people are basically subsidizing the same corporations that are taking away their representation.

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GP already explicitly called it bipartisan, and it was bipartisan well before Obama (though if we're pointing fingers at a modern president for accelerating the abuse of "national security", it really should be Dubya).

It was literally Obama who did the things mentioned that had bipartisan support.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awla...

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Why can I still see it then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don't_be_evil

“Removed it from the preface and retained it as the last sentence.”

They moved where it appeared in the document. That’s not removing it.

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I'm Canadian, the auto industry here died the moment trump started all of this tarrif talk in February, it just hasn't gotten cold yet. Because of the tarrif and trade war our local industries will struggle and collapse, there's nothing we can do about that - they were dependent on US trade partners and markets, the Canadian market is much smaller. We have massive productivity issues, there's little chance we'll succ…

Seems pretty straightforward to me: Hey, China - start local plants and we’ll be happy to have as many EVs as we can build. After all, we’ll have plenty of idle auto workers.

If Chinese industry is willing to operate at a loss in order to poke the US in the eye, sure - markets too small and labor too expensive otherwise imo.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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I think this both overstates and understates the case. The evidence being weak does not invalidate the decision; as the court notes, the government gets substantial deference on matters of national security. The invalidation comes from the fact that this is clearly retaliatory behavior for speech; and the evidence for this is fairly strong since the administration has made public statements to that effect. The eviden…

Well, I guess it's good that corporations have free speech protections under the First Amendment. I often see it argued here that they shouldn't.

The legal short-hand saying that "corporations are people" is terrible PR. Non-legal-experts look at that and logically and correctly conclude "no, they're not", and think it's a ridiculous statement.

The underlying legal principle is that groups of individuals banding together don't lose their fundamental rights. That applies to unions, non-profits, clubs, churches, political parties, small businesses, and yes, corporations.

Courts do allow more government control over "commercial speech" than, say, political speech. But that discriminates based on the type of speech, not the type of speaker.

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A both-sides guy! How original! Choose the worst Democratic politician currently in office and please explain what they’ve done or said that is in any way comparable to what the Republican Party is doing.

This is completely missing the point. Structurally I don't believe either party is set up to allow truly quality candidates to succeed. They optimize for all the wrong things in their candidates. Candidates who are quality that get through tend to be exceptions. Picking the worst of either side is just furthering the "We can't vote for good candidates because they might lose to whoever we believe is the worst candida…

You're missing the point. The harris administration wouldn't have had even 1% of the damage we are seeing. No 50% tariffs on Canada. No Iran war. No family members get bank charters and $600 million DoD contracts. I could go on and on. Biden was never remotely close to what his worst critics predicted nor was Obama. This admin has been far worse than even the most hyperbolic criticism predicted. American leadership and place in the world is permanently weaker now. It won't ever be the same and we will be poorer over the next few generations more isolated and sink into a position of parity if we are lucky.

The Biden administration left an economy that was the envy of the world. Leadership that was trusted and a series of impressive bipartisan legislation from the CHIPs act to the infrastructure bill that set us on a good trajectory for the coming changes. Obama did the same, if we had continued the emphasis on building a solar industry our AI build out would be better positioned now we are behind China by a massive degree.

But hunter Biden sold a few painting? And democrats take corporate contributions so it's all equally bad? That doesn't match the data, results or predictions people make before administrations take over.

Three Republicans started three wars in the middle east and caused three spikes in oil prices.

Three democrats started 0 wars and over saw reduced deficits, landmark legislation like Obamacare, build back better, CHIPs, etc. And would have had even more accomplished if the Trans pacific partnership trade area had been continued the Iran nuclear agreement remained in effect, the solar investments been expanded the EVV subsidies expanded.

How can you equivicate these records?

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Selling below price to capture a market is now somehow BAD? Isn’t this the bread & butter of cutthroat capitalism? Isn’t it something we do endlessly? But when the Chinese do it its “dumping”?

For more complicated products, the fear is that this subsidy destroys all competition, and then you're dependent upon that country / company.

Right isn’t that the explicit goal of US companies? Why wouldn’t the same goal be ok for other nations to pursue?

Hypocrisy is never a good look.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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They arguably have more free speech rights than the average person with citizens united..

How so?

Money affords direct access and reach while the average person gets a queue

You and I get an email box often full to communicate with officials over

Rich people call and text them

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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You're not wrong. The United States has a legal system and not a justice system. Having spent many years of my life involved 'adjacently' with the system, I'd say it's actually a rigged, sadistic system.

What the current regime has brought to light is that WAY too much of the American "checks and balances" are based on "trust me bro" and "a person with morals just wouldn't do that". Zero penalties for doing the wrong thing. People can just go in front of a congressional hearing and ... lie. Just plain faced bold provable lies. Nobody can call them a liar because of The Code, but there's also no penalty for them for l…

What system successfully combats this though?

The only hope I think we have is education, good education so children have a brain and know when people are lying. For me it's not the lies that are the problem in politics, it's the massive number of people that believe the lies.

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Accusations of Chinese dumping are cheap and easy to make, but the evidence is pretty mixed. Most actual cases have been of raw materials (eg steel, yarn) and industrial chemicals. I think this is a long way from the alleged "tsunami of Chinese goods". It's also worth noting that many Chinese manufactured goods would mostly substitute for US manufactured goods (eg cars). That's actually the whole point.

China is accused of dumping cars too: https://euobserver.com/226294/eu-warns-europes-car-industry-...

Politicians accuse China of many things.

I'd note the lack of evidence presented there, at least in the part I could read.

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