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Rubio Uses Terrorism Law to Ban Secure Email Service

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Re: Rubio Uses Terrorism Law to Ban Secure Email Service

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The outstanding thing about these sanctions is that there's no due process: the accuser is the jury and judge. You don't need to be found guilty, or even charged to be sanction. The impact is deep, and global. Each of these sanctions is sending a really strong signal to the world: "stop relying on anything US".

.. people do not "rely" on US, people are afraid of US.. the big dimwit with a club

Re: Rubio Uses Terrorism Law to Ban Secure Email Service

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This sets the precedence that any entity providing encrypted services who refuses to provide US backdoors can be hit with a terrorist designation, anyone using them becomes criminalized by association. Even Apple would now have to kowtow or face the emperor's wrath. In 2030: "You have DeltaChat installed on your GrapheneOS phone? Why would you use that unless you're a terrorist? Good citizens use government-blessed c…

On the individual side of things, we see people that cross a red line getting all their cloud and social media accounts nuked on the same day. That's been the case for a long time.

Re: Rubio Uses Terrorism Law to Ban Secure Email Service

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post #6

This sets the precedence that any entity providing encrypted services who refuses to provide US backdoors can be hit with a terrorist designation, anyone using them becomes criminalized by association. Even Apple would now have to kowtow or face the emperor's wrath. In 2030: "You have DeltaChat installed on your GrapheneOS phone? Why would you use that unless you're a terrorist? Good citizens use government-blessed c…

> like Signal Is xeonmc the only person in this world, aside from me, that is extremely suspicious of walled garden applications like Signal, regardless of how open their source is?

Well, I'd expect any person or organization in such a position, to be on the receiving end of the proverbial rubber hose, before too long.

Re: Rubio Uses Terrorism Law to Ban Secure Email Service

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post #6

This sets the precedence that any entity providing encrypted services who refuses to provide US backdoors can be hit with a terrorist designation, anyone using them becomes criminalized by association. Even Apple would now have to kowtow or face the emperor's wrath. In 2030: "You have DeltaChat installed on your GrapheneOS phone? Why would you use that unless you're a terrorist? Good citizens use government-blessed c…

Fwiw, the FBI use Signal regularly, and it's approved for some specific use cases . Don't ask how I know ;) There are ways to ascertain how and when a person is using their device by analyzing Signal's metadata, then build a predictive model based on months of daily usage to infer when they're most likely about to pick up their phone. Delta Chat is years behind Signal's protections, and its claims of "zero metadata"…

Sources about Signal and SimpleX?

Re: Rubio Uses Terrorism Law to Ban Secure Email Service

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The outstanding thing about these sanctions is that there's no due process: the accuser is the jury and judge. You don't need to be found guilty, or even charged to be sanction. The impact is deep, and global. Each of these sanctions is sending a really strong signal to the world: "stop relying on anything US".

That's just American culture no? Americans hate discussions, meetings and deliberations. They want a strong leader telling everyone what to do and then everyone jumps up to do it. The US technically has a parliament but it's function is largely ceremonial.

It doesn't technically have a parliament, it's a presidential system, not a parliamentary system. In a parliamentary system, it's parliament who appoints the head of state. Their congress does not appoint their President, and the President does not answer to congress.
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