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So let's hold him accountable for the illegal things he did! Oh wait, he didn't break any laws? Hmm...well, fuck the idea of having a legal system I guess, let's just cheer every vigilante who decides to murder people in the street based on their own feelings. I'm sure that'll work out well.
Don't put words in my mouth.
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"But an LLM can't go to conferences; they can't have Top Secret Meetings where a merger or acquisition is discussed" Sure they can - especially when conferences are designed to have an API. And when more companies are run by an AI, they will absolutely have secret meetings to discuss a merger.
The system works because it runs on human ambition. If people in power handed their control to an AI there wouldn't be companies and mergers anymore. It wouldn't make sense. That world could be great or it could be dystopian.
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> And nature doesn't come with purposes, it's all something we impose on it. That is the presumption others are calling you out for. Things very clearly act appear to act with purpose, they just clearly don't provide it for themselves . You are presuming one solution to the problem (that appearance does not hold in reality), but there is another one.
A storm can appear to act with purpose too, or a planet orbiting a star, yet I doubt you assign it agency. It's fundamentally your choice to assign something agency or not, whether you are right or wrong to do so, is not an empirical question. It is a teleological one. "Call me out" all you want, this is very basic.
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You truly don't see the difference between those two examples?
I'm not quite sure why you ask that? I'm not arguing that these two very different examples are the same, I'm explaining more concretely what it means to say that a CEO's job is to "to be responsible to the business".
To be fair I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs despite how they believe in greater self-worth. As a developer I keep running into problems that require some measure of creativity to solve or workaround. And regardless of how many years I've been in the industry I'm not running out of issues. They just keep getting more obscure. On the other hand leadership communication and problem resolution seem like…
Good leadership is very hard to replace. Think about Apple without Steve Jobs.
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Says someone living better than an ancient Egyptian pharaoh. Get off social media and the world is suddenly less dystopian.
That is simply a result of evolution as a species. We have oddly moved beyond where we potentially needed to be as a species for the financial benefit of a few and now we are reversing in quality of life due to the focus being on financial gain. Western citizens live a more selfish and worse life overall in terms of individual wealth, buying power, job availability, overall health, than say 20/30 years ago.
When you do that, you see something interesting. There are three things, the "three devils" as I heard one article call them, that are largely responsible for the perceived decline vs 20-30 years ago: the cost of housing, health care, and college tuition. Of those housing is the worst because it's the most universally unavoidable.
Ignore housing, health care, and college tuition, and think about it...
Individual wealth: vastly higher, especially if you include technological growth and what's possible today and what you can buy today for the same $$$.
Buying power: similar in many areas, slightly lower in energy but made up for by vast efficiency increases (e.g. I drive an EV that costs less than $10 to charge in my garage), slightly lower for groceries but a lot of that is self-inflicted. Vote, people.
Job availability: mixed, and very much depends on whether you compare to a recession period or a boom period.
Overall health: mixed.
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"But an LLM can't go to conferences; they can't have Top Secret Meetings where a merger or acquisition is discussed" Sure they can - especially when conferences are designed to have an API. And when more companies are run by an AI, they will absolutely have secret meetings to discuss a merger.
> Sure they can - especially when conferences are designed to have an API. This sounds about as realistic as all of the crypto and blockchain people talking about distributed governance and such. The API part and agents pulling data is fine, I doubt they'd be running a business though, since something tells me that sort of thing is gatekept way more even from other people. For a cool fictional portrayal of AI busines…
Not at all.
But I don't know that they would do any worse than an average human would in the exact same situations.
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Surprise, surprise: everyone thinks other people’s jobs are easier to automate away than their own.
> everyone thinks other people’s jobs are easier to automate away than their own. You live in an ivory tower bubble if you truly believe this Most people aren't even aware that anything even near this level of automation exists.
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Basically, yeah. Classification in general is a subjective, value-laden activity. At the most granular resolution, everything is fundamentally sui generis -- putting things into classes requires making subjective judgments about what qualities and characteristics you're going to ignore in order to focus on the ones you care about. Put simply, when you come up with a class/category taxonomy, you're drawing your own bo…
So you’re basically against the concept of classes and the act of classification . An interesting position to take in a hacker community but ok :) However you can’t simply dismiss a whole literature of class struggle by simply rejecting the notion of class fundamentally. Sure, every human being is unique and individual . But if you take a few million of them, patterns arise. Marketing people know and abuse this. Also…
Of course there's a literature on it. Tribalism is one of humanity's most primitive traits. Being principled, reasoning, and being fair are the unusual things that develop and are developed by the most advanced civilisations. Just having different prices in shops based on who you are is normal. Having a set price for every customer is the advanced version, and less common.