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Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by adastra22 »

colechristensen wrote: post #12
firefoxd wrote: post #3

The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.

>Why can't they expedite for special cases? They can, the preliminary injunction is a thing that can be invoked very quickly to stop actions before the law decides. Anthropic didn't suffer any irreparable harm and they're free to seek damages if they wish, but they won't because it doesn't really matter to them. This whole mess has just been advertising that has kept them in the headlines and very likely has been mor…

I don’t know how you can say that. Anthropic’s reputation was destroyed by this, and A LOT of business deals happened before this injustice was corrected.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by avaer »

firefoxd wrote: post #3

The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.

That's why the exploit of a social media savvy government is to overflow the system with so much slop (literally and figuratively) the law can never catch up. Your bug is their feature.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by inigyou »

avaer wrote: post #52
firefoxd wrote: post #3

The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.

That's why the exploit of a social media savvy government is to overflow the system with so much slop (literally and figuratively) the law can never catch up. Your bug is their feature.

They call it "flooding the zone", it's an explicit strategy

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by inigyou »

newsomix9xl wrote: post #47
bruce511 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And trade. The last 18 months the US has shown itself to be a unreliable trade partner. Lots of companies are looking at diversifying both markets and supply chains. The recent trip of the Canadian PM to China is but the most visible part of this shift. That's at govt level, but I've seen it happen all the way down to individual level. US products are typically more expensive here than Chinese. But at least you were…

I doubt the Canadians want their economy flooded with Chinese goods ("dumping" - selling goods at less than cost) - which destroys local industry. This was predicted in The Economist awhile back, that if the US blocked Chinese imports a tsunami of Chinese goods would flood other countries and now it's happening. Those countries will also, in turn, erect trade barriers, or suffer the devastation that massive Chinese d…

Oh no! Cheap goods and services! Maybe some other governments will be smart enough to not let a massive influx of nearly free stuff make everyone materially worse off. In fact it seems like only a completely idiotic system would make people worse off for having more free stuff.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by jimmaswell »

fny wrote: post #45
bpodgursky wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Bush and Obama filed 8 emergency applications across their presidencies (16 years.) The first Trump admin filed 41. Biden filed 19. The second Trump admin filed 32 in 2025 alone.

Ok? This is a total non-sequitur.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by inigyou »

bruce511 wrote: post #32
goatlover wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also possible the Trump admin has people commenting online.

They don't need to be part of the administration. More than 50% of voters voted for Trump. Even today >30% (of everyone) think he's doing a good job. (Ie about equal to the voters in absolute number terms). Lots of people believe eat he is doing is legal simply because he is doing it.

Well it is. They literally made a law saying whatever the president does is legal because he's the president.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by Refreeze5224 »

bpodgursky wrote: post #34
throw0101a wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why can't they expedite for special cases? To a certain extent this exists, but given that SCOTUS has been stacked with GOPers… > The shadow docket is a break from ordinary procedure. Such cases receive very limited briefings and are typically decided a week or less after an application is filed. The process generally results in short, unsigned rulings. In contrast, merits cases take months, include extensive brief…

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Absolutely nothing about how the Supreme Court works nowadays has respect for standard process or decorum. It's merely a shield to hide behind when it's convenient, to be ignored when it's useful.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by ihaveajob »

angry_octet wrote: post #21
bushido wrote: post #2

It was a master stroke in international politics though, the US created an arms race towards sovereign ai, small models, and self-hosting - exactly like they wanted to. (sarcasm intended)

The Iran war and SoH crisis has been great for EV uptake outside of the US. In combination with the US AI apartheid, it has been a huge boost for Chinese EVs and Chinese AI adoption.

No wonder in China they call Trump "the nation builder".

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Post by inigyou »

ButlerianJihad wrote: post #30
replwoacause wrote: post #15

Most of what Trump does is illegal.

A lot of what the President does is ineffectual. And this is speaking with generality, including Presidents Obama, Biden, Clinton, et. al. The modern method of "ruling by Executive Order/Action" is a clever political ruse. It garners a lot of attention to decree an EO on some wedge issue, doesn't it? It stirs the pot quite effectively, even if the EO isn't, in fact, effective to do anything at all. Ruling by EO is a…

What happens if the president ignores the budget and spends money how he wants?
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