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Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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There was a guy in the comments of the first article on this topic, who claimed to be an expert on this law and was adamant that the decision by the Trump admin was perfectly legal.

Not just for accountability sake, but if that gentleman could come back in here and outline what he thinks is going on that would be quite interesting.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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post #3

The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.

>Why can't they expedite for special cases?

They can, the preliminary injunction is a thing that can be invoked very quickly to stop actions before the law decides.

Anthropic didn't suffer any irreparable harm and they're free to seek damages if they wish, but they won't because it doesn't really matter to them. This whole mess has just been advertising that has kept them in the headlines and very likely has been more beneficial than harmful.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

#13
I don't agree. When anthropic contractually stopped the US government from using the platform for certain purposes that they could not prevent the average user from pursuing they created a de facto national security risk.

Prevent everyone from doing it or don't prevent anyone. You can't single out and cripple only one country.

I don't imagine that this was Anthropic's intent anyway. They were just trying to say that it shouldn't be used for warfare. Respectable, but short sighted considering that they couldn't stop other people from using it for that same purpose.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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post #3

The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.

Law was not in effect yet, and now it’s repealed. Cest la vie.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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post #3

The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.

> Why can't they expedite for special cases?

To a certain extent this exists, but given that SCOTUS has been stacked with GOPers…

> The shadow docket is a break from ordinary procedure. Such cases receive very limited briefings and are typically decided a week or less after an application is filed. The process generally results in short, unsigned rulings. In contrast, merits cases take months, include extensive briefing and public oral argument, and result in lengthy written opinions detailing the reasoning of the majority and of any concurring and dissenting justices.

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_docket

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

#18
Good for Anthropic for standing up for themselves but think of the masses of companies that decided not to take the risk. The tone was definitely set at Trump's inauguration with all the tech execs front and center on display. They knew that if they didn't play ball Trump would use government power against them.

Law firms blackmailed into doing pro bono work for Trump's pet causes, intelligence analysts not able to tell the truth, energy companies giving up wind leases and switching to fossil fuels. And of course the constant shakedowns for cash.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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There was a guy in the comments of the first article on this topic, who claimed to be an expert on this law and was adamant that the decision by the Trump admin was perfectly legal. Not just for accountability sake, but if that gentleman could come back in here and outline what he thinks is going on that would be quite interesting.

It’s possible this could go before multiple judges who won’t all agree with this particular one.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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I don't agree. When anthropic contractually stopped the US government from using the platform for certain purposes that they could not prevent the average user from pursuing they created a de facto national security risk. Prevent everyone from doing it or don't prevent anyone. You can't single out and cripple only one country. I don't imagine that this was Anthropic's intent anyway. They were just trying to say that…

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