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Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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There are several hundred federal judges, and cases like this can be brought before virtually any of them. As a consequence at least one judge has ruled practically every single action by the Trump administration is illegal. These rulings are typically overturn at some point in the appeals process up to the Supreme Court, which has mostly upheld them as legal.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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The law is too slow. It's like a horse carriage in the age of twitter. Why can't they expedite for special cases? Not even defending Antropic or any company. Just that if a tweet can cause damage in seconds, the law shouldn't be too far behind.

I thought I hated Web 2.0/3.0, but "age of twitter" made me actually feel ill.

age of xitter won't make you feel better.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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So can they now sue the government and recoup their inflated theoretical losses to be paid out of tax revenue? It feels like any outcome here will have no negative effect on the major players actually involved.

s/out of tax revenue/with public money/

This is the federal government. When they collect taxes it is the minus operation that corresponds to the plus operation when they spent it initially.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why can't they expedite for special cases? To a certain extent this exists, but given that SCOTUS has been stacked with GOPers… > The shadow docket is a break from ordinary procedure. Such cases receive very limited briefings and are typically decided a week or less after an application is filed. The process generally results in short, unsigned rulings. In contrast, merits cases take months, include extensive brief…

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Bush and Obama filed 8 emergency applications across their presidencies (16 years.)

The first Trump admin filed 41.

Biden filed 19.

The second Trump admin filed 32 in 2025 alone.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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There are several hundred federal judges, and cases like this can be brought before virtually any of them. As a consequence at least one judge has ruled practically every single action by the Trump administration is illegal. These rulings are typically overturn at some point in the appeals process up to the Supreme Court, which has mostly upheld them as legal.

> As a consequence at least one judge has ruled practically every single action by the Trump administration is illegal.

Because he is a shameless crook who heads up a corrupt administration

> These rulings are typically overturn at some point in the appeals process up to the Supreme Court, which has mostly upheld them as legal.

Gee I wonder why that is!!

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Iran war and SoH crisis has been great for EV uptake outside of the US. In combination with the US AI apartheid, it has been a huge boost for Chinese EVs and Chinese AI adoption.

And trade. The last 18 months the US has shown itself to be a unreliable trade partner. Lots of companies are looking at diversifying both markets and supply chains. The recent trip of the Canadian PM to China is but the most visible part of this shift. That's at govt level, but I've seen it happen all the way down to individual level. US products are typically more expensive here than Chinese. But at least you were…

I doubt the Canadians want their economy flooded with Chinese goods ("dumping" - selling goods at less than cost) - which destroys local industry.

This was predicted in The Economist awhile back, that if the US blocked Chinese imports a tsunami of Chinese goods would flood other countries and now it's happening. Those countries will also, in turn, erect trade barriers, or suffer the devastation that massive Chinese dumping causes.

So it's a nice protest gesture, but it's a cutting off your nose to spite your face gesture.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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It was a master stroke in international politics though, the US created an arms race towards sovereign ai, small models, and self-hosting - exactly like they wanted to. (sarcasm intended)

Similarly the war created unstoppable momentum towards decarbonization.

Will Trump go down as one of the greatest environmentalists... ever?

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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So what if it’s illegal, what can be done about it, the corruption is so extreme there will be no recourse. I hope I’m wrong…

You're not wrong. The United States has a legal system and not a justice system. Having spent many years of my life involved 'adjacently' with the system, I'd say it's actually a rigged, sadistic system.

Re: Judge rules Trump administration’s blacklisting of Anthropic was illegal

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Good for Anthropic for standing up for themselves but think of the masses of companies that decided not to take the risk. The tone was definitely set at Trump's inauguration with all the tech execs front and center on display. They knew that if they didn't play ball Trump would use government power against them. Law firms blackmailed into doing pro bono work for Trump's pet causes, intelligence analysts not able to t…

It's a shame companies like Google immediately folded instead of standing with them. https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/iKm2FhpWkuuBojm82/why-i-left... In his recent interview Emil Michael (DoW undersecretary, "AI czar") even mentions that the Anthropic case served as motivation for Google folding. It is a shame that Google's leadership is so spineless. On the minuscule off-chance any of those VPs are reading HN - you a…

Didn't google give up "not being evil" a long long time ago? Are you really surprised?
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