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Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Post by justincormack »

crnkofe wrote: post #433

To be fair I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs despite how they believe in greater self-worth. As a developer I keep running into problems that require some measure of creativity to solve or workaround. And regardless of how many years I've been in the industry I'm not running out of issues. They just keep getting more obscure. On the other hand leadership communication and problem resolution seem like…

You want to see innovation in layoff notices? There are some areas where innovation is not a good idea.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Post by doublepg23 »

beepbooptheory wrote: post #525
Gormo wrote: post #518

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The concept of "class struggle" epitomizes the "group vs. group war" mentality. It's a mental framework that combines ingroup/outgroup dynamics with a Manichean moral narrative, leading to literally every question being interpreted as a move in relation to an all-encompassing macro-level conflict. This in turn leads to every problem being abstracted out of its context, and attributed to malice instead of error. Think…

Huh. Do you think the same thing about the concept of social/economic class as well? Or is it just rejecting that there is typically a struggle between them?

I don't believe class struggle is the driving force of history.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Post by chaostheory »

d_burfoot wrote: post #573
deltarholamda wrote: post #565

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The value-add for a meatbag CEO is the physical networking they do. They have to do executive functions as well, which could quite possibly be replaced with a well-trained LLM and even possibly exceed in overall quality. But an LLM can't go to conferences; they can't have Top Secret Meetings where a merger or acquisition is discussed; they can't run into Jim Executive of BigCorp Inc. in Vail and scheme up some big ne…

> they can't have Top Secret Meetings where a merger or acquisition is discussed This actually seems completely doable for a properly configured LLM. There will probably be a platform in the future where companies can setup LLM to discuss business deals with other companies' LLMs and bring the resulting proposals to the human leadership. Every morning the CEO gets an email about the 3 most promising potential deals t…

AIs have to breakthrough the threshold of controlling an important company first before it starts to matter

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

noir_lord wrote: post #436
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #425

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Yep. And I guarantee that people are probably already instructing their agents to have random typos.

It's been weird to see the face of a bunch of youtubers I've followed for years without any idea what they look like (mostly history/military history/engineering type stuff), it used to be video/photo's/diagrams with them providing a voice over but because of the sheer quantity of absolute shite/slop mirroring that style they've started appearing on camera as quick "proof of not AI" check. For that type of content YT…

A friend showed me a video, put out by a local news organization, that started with an attractive woman, standing in the place being discussed, speaking into a microphone.

Cool. Standard local interest story.

Then, it cut to a photo montage, with “her” voice, continuing the story.

Except it was AI. It wasn’t especially successful. You could hear the “tics” from the AI.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Post by ngvrnd »

deltarholamda wrote: post #565
crnkofe wrote: post #433

To be fair I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs despite how they believe in greater self-worth. As a developer I keep running into problems that require some measure of creativity to solve or workaround. And regardless of how many years I've been in the industry I'm not running out of issues. They just keep getting more obscure. On the other hand leadership communication and problem resolution seem like…

The value-add for a meatbag CEO is the physical networking they do. They have to do executive functions as well, which could quite possibly be replaced with a well-trained LLM and even possibly exceed in overall quality. But an LLM can't go to conferences; they can't have Top Secret Meetings where a merger or acquisition is discussed; they can't run into Jim Executive of BigCorp Inc. in Vail and scheme up some big ne…

Meatbags can still be employed in this limited capacity, surely.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Post by setgree »

Jeremy Irons's CEO character in _Margin Call_ explains his job like this:

> Do you care to know why I'm in this chair with you all? I mean, why I earn the big bucks?... I'm here for one reason and one reason alone. I'm here to guess what the music might do a week, a month, a year from now. That's it. Nothing more. And standing here tonight, I'm afraid that I don't hear - a - thing. Just... silence.

I'm sure many CEOs are bozos who can be replaced by a statistical averaging and guessing machine. But this skill of saying "it's time for us to dramatically change course because the music has stopped" seems to me very contrary to the current LLM paradigm. RL makes the chatbot agreeable ('aligned'). But changing course is inherently disagreeable. It makes enemies and people are going to try to talk you out of it at every turn. I think we'll need a new idea of what LLMs are for, and how to train them, before they can do that. (Much easier to mimic and therefore replace a Ballmer than a Nadella, in other words.)

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Post by xgkickt »

deltarholamda wrote: post #565
crnkofe wrote: post #433

To be fair I think its far easier to automate leadership jobs despite how they believe in greater self-worth. As a developer I keep running into problems that require some measure of creativity to solve or workaround. And regardless of how many years I've been in the industry I'm not running out of issues. They just keep getting more obscure. On the other hand leadership communication and problem resolution seem like…

The value-add for a meatbag CEO is the physical networking they do. They have to do executive functions as well, which could quite possibly be replaced with a well-trained LLM and even possibly exceed in overall quality. But an LLM can't go to conferences; they can't have Top Secret Meetings where a merger or acquisition is discussed; they can't run into Jim Executive of BigCorp Inc. in Vail and scheme up some big ne…

You’d also get CEO optimization, getting them to talk about and how the entire company is now a -first business.

Re: CEO fired developers to make room for AI. Developers create open source AI CEO

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Post by snthpy »

mtraven wrote: post #273
snthpy wrote: post #181

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A related point that I've been making privately for at least ten years to anyone that would listen, is that we've had Superhuman Intelligence for at least hundreds, if not thousands, of years in the form of corporations and institutions. No single human could design a rocket to go to the moon or keep all Wallmart stores supplied on a daily basis. Moreover when something like the CEO or US president changes, the polic…

Same here, for at least 13 years. So have many others https://hyperphor.com/ammdi/AI-risk-%E2%89%A1-capitalism

Cool, will check it out.

Yeah, wasn't claiming that it was particularly novel or divine insight, otherwise I might have tried to publish a paper about it. I was just recounting my experience on this matter.

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