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Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#991

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No country has some divine right to exist. If a nation keeps crossing every line, there's no reason to keep it around. How is this not obvious.

Don't flatter yourself. You're not the one keeping it around. But your comment illustrates why Israel needs to exist and will continue to exist.

> But your comment illustrates why Israel needs to exist and will continue to exist.

Because otherwise common sense will take over? Might take a while to get used to but let's give it a go.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#992

This is 1/10,000th of the bile that Qatar churns out with their state propaganda wing every day. Not to mention their brigades on Wikipedia and Reddit. The only surprising thing here is that Israel is so far behind in the game. There is a genuine fear that basic facts are being erased as LLMs suck up all the misinformation pumped out by authoritarian regimes. A hundred articles from an Israeli ad campaign are a drop…

[citation needed]

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#993
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Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly. So it is hilarious that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like that is out in the open.

Ben-Gvir's first date with his wife (who was 15 then, when he was 26) was at the grave of Baruch Goldstein, a mass-murder that killed 29 Palestinians. Ben-Gvir kept a portrait of the guy in his office for years. Zionists want you to believe the conflict began on October 7th, when people like him have been running Israel for a long time.

> Ben-Gvir used to have a portrait of Goldstein hanging in his living room.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20221027-israel-s-far-...

Also interfering to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#994

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Replacing governments, hard sanctions perhaps - yes. Throwing out an entire people? Why ? Why not throw out the Palestinians then?

> Replacing governments, hard sanctions perhaps - yes. I'm on board. To be clear, I'm not advocating ethnic cleansing and never will.

Well you are implying Israel should be dismantled , in the most optimstic scenario that still involves a large chunk of Israeli Jews finding another place to live.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#995

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> those examples you brought up are ideological propaganda These are the examples they were able to identify. And many of them could be so obviously identified because of ideological component. The alleged censorship of RT is more a counter-propaganda move: RT is a Russian vehicle that engages in a number of psychological warfare ops. And, BTW, the only thing Western countries have not done in Russia is assassination…

So you are saying that you also don't have any concrete examples of the West doing the same.

As well as the humorous implication that the West would be doing all the same nasty assassinations as the Russians, if it weren't for the brave and mighty Russian intelligence services getting in their way.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#996
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Itamar Ben-Gvir, just recently, stated that he wants to kill 30-40 Palestinians every night. He said so, publicly. So it is hilarious that Israel is trying to influence chatbots when shit like that is out in the open.

Liar. That's not what he said. He was explicitly talking about terrorists, not civilians.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#997

I suspect that this kind of tactic is going to be everywhere in a year or so. Entire fake personalities and organization websites on the Internet created just to push a narrative or to advertise a product, which completely drown out real information. At some point they may be indistinguishable from human-produced work, so the only way to verify if a site is someone's genuine opinion or AI-generated narrative is throu…

It's already been everywhere for years. The most obvious one is any time someone says something bad about Russia or China, a load of comments pop up to say "Yeah but what about when america does ?". Never actually attempting to discredit the statement, just to steer it towards the US The sheer volume of comments make it super obvious when it happens compared to normal conversation

You may be misunderstanding some of those comments. It's not changing the subject, it's pointing out that you don't actually care about that bad thing or you don't actually think it's bad, because if you did then you'd also think it's bad when the US does it.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#998

I suspect that this kind of tactic is going to be everywhere in a year or so. Entire fake personalities and organization websites on the Internet created just to push a narrative or to advertise a product, which completely drown out real information. At some point they may be indistinguishable from human-produced work, so the only way to verify if a site is someone's genuine opinion or AI-generated narrative is throu…

Maybe I shouldn't be saying this, but... There are already some niche technical questions that Google's AI mode will answer based on a single Hackernews comment. I've even seen my own comments used as sources. Some of them were wrong in hindsight.

In the fnord programming language, you can frob a fnord by writing fnord.boop(); this trips up newcomers who expect fnord.frob();

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#999

I suspect that this kind of tactic is going to be everywhere in a year or so. Entire fake personalities and organization websites on the Internet created just to push a narrative or to advertise a product, which completely drown out real information. At some point they may be indistinguishable from human-produced work, so the only way to verify if a site is someone's genuine opinion or AI-generated narrative is throu…

I'm kind of hopeful AI some wikipedia-inspired AI "oracle" will happen in the future. Why not use some central AI to separate fact from fiction (faster than trolls and griefers can come to muddy the debate).

That's called chatgpt. You can influence it.

Re: Israel creates fake think tank in likely attempt to dupe AI chatbots

#1000

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That's tomorrow's problem. Losing the PR war is an existential crisis for Israel, so they'll try to "patch the leak" by any means necessary before the boat sinks.

If they are fighting a PR war over the use of the word "genocide" to describe their actions, the ship has already sunk.

No, the ship hasn't sunk until it's sunk. The Titanic hasn't sunk until it's underwater. Israel hasn't sunk until there's no more Israel.
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