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Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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> Because there is change coming to the US and the next president isn't likely to be such a complete moron. All past elections prove you otherwise.

If you honestly think that, then you are not paying attention, or you're just a typical troll.

Maybe you are? Because so far, I backed up my opinion about China vs Taiwan with facts. And you backed up yours with wishes.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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> I've lived in Taiwan for a large part of my life. Sounds like you've been fed the US anti-China propaganda for the large part of your life as well. _China doesn't need to invade Taiwan_ 1. 50%+ of Taiwan's workforce are white-collar workers [0]. 2. There are 3-4 major underwater internet communication hubs in Taiwan [1]. 3. There is a substantial opposition in Taiwan that want reunification (~20% of population supp…

> _China doesn't need to invade Taiwan_ Russia didn't need to invade Ukraine either. But nonetheless China is clearly preparing itself to be ready to be able to invade, with aircraft carriers, amphibious assault ships, dual purpose roll-on/roll-off carriers. It doesn't mean it will , but that it wants to be able to. So basically it will depend on a single dictator's whim if they do or don't. > Establish a total naval…

> Russia didn't need to invade Ukraine either.

Arguable, they had to after the 2008 Buharest NATO summit and Ukraine's militarization going forward, and eradication of Russian language and Russian-speaking population in the east.

> Which would be considered an act of war, so it's the same scenario again.

China considers Taiwan their territory, who is there to protect Taiwan? US?

>20% is more than the % of people in the Donbass that wanted unification with Russia

20% plus part of those white-collar workers who are a backbone of the Taiwan's economy and politics and can be left jobless after China achieves EUV and puts TSMC out of monopoly.

Let's be real. Trump demanded TSMC to invest 100B into US factories and they complied [0].

[0] https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/03/tsmc-to-announce-100-billion...

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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China is imperialist as any other country. They extract resources from others like the British 100 years ago. This is hilarious that this whole “west is bad” makes people blind. > Imperialism costed millions of lives Chinese policies resulted in 10s of millions of their own people dead, and many millions in labor camps today. Sure, “west is bad” but China “has its problems”.

> China is imperialist as any other country. Sure, but not the way West conducted it, by going and killing generations of people. Look at India, before British colonization they accounted for almost 25% GDP of the world (~1700s), now it is around 3-4% Or lets look at China itself, before the opium wars and British colonization, it accounted for ~30% of the world GDP, by 1970s it dropped to 4-5%, now climbing back to…

> Sure, but not the way West conducted it, by going and killing generations of people.

But they did. Look at Xinjiang, Tibet, and the history of Manchuria, among others. They did it to themselves as well, like most backwards dictatorship. And "the West” does not really do genocide anymore, either. This is more a consequence of it being a terrible strategy than Chinese benevolence (or anyone’s, really). At some point we realised that direct administration is a burden and that it’s much more cost effective to bribe nominally independent governments without having to deal directly with local populations. China does this a lot, just like evil western imperialist countries. Empires look different in the 21st century than in the 19th, that’s all. And where would you put Russia in a neat west-rest of the world dichotomy?

> You keep defending the West, even though its actions were much worse than "industrial espionage"

“The West” is not a monolith. It’s made of several countries, some of them better than others, and each one of them with its good and bad sides. It is not useful to work with generalisations like that. It obscures any information or lesson we could get and leads to wrong conclusions. It’s also counter-productive because for all its evil, there is nothing “the West” did that is unique. Except in scale, but then it’s more a quirk of history than something being intrinsically evil in “western” people.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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Geekbench is the only consumer usable cross-platform benchmark. It matches SPEC differences between platforms

Does it test hardware, or hardware plus software that can be different on different platforms?

Does that matter? I don't care of Apple's thread scheduler is faster or slower than Windows' or if their throttling algorithm behaves differently, I just want to see how it performs in a given task.

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"Very happy" is a bit of a stretch, since a significant proportion of Taiwan would prefer to jettison the current pretence of being "One China" and become fully independent. But I agree that pretty much everybody will happily take the status quo over armed invasion.

I have a friend in Taiwan and he told me they're pretty happy because they have independence this way. If they go for more international recognition etc they'll gain nothing they don't already have but they'll upset the balance and give the CCP a reason to invade. So it will only make things worse. And a lot of people are sympathetic with the Chinese, just not their government. I've only visited Taiwan once and I onl…

having lived in Taiwan for a year. that's the sentiment of majority of the population - they want to maintain the status quo.

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The age old problem of mobile chips have brilliant performance for about 15 seconds until they thermal throttle. If you are just using apps, 15 seconds is more than enough to launch and setup an app, for anything more it will be down graded a little. Still dang impressive but the form factor becomes the limiting factor.

There’s still one mystery for me. I’m now at the iPhone 16. The performance of those chips with 8GB in non throttled environment (Neo..) can run as a fully performant macOS. Yet, as a phone I don’t feel upgraded performance since my SE 1st gen days. Sometimes I get stuttering, basic browsing can get the device pretty warm, sometime camera lags to launch. My usage profile didn’t change much over the years. So I can on…

Yeah, it is a really weird one. Especially iOS is optimized to the gills, there is no real desktop running to speak of and app developers care just a little more than on Android, yet somehow an iPhone can't keep a few apps in memory, yet a MacBook Neo with 8GB RAM does just fine with multiple chunky desktop (often Electron) applications in memory, along with macOS itself being more chunky.

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Not everyone is affected by propaganda, either US/Taiwanese or Chinese one. Some are. Some people also want to feed their families and not be unemployed. P.S. A large number of Ukrainians moved to Russia. Including the ones who wanted to reunite with their relatives. Taiwanese have a lot of relatives on the mainland as well.

> A large number of Ukrainians moved to Russia Citation very much needed.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_refugee_crisis

2. https://data.unhcr.org/en/documents/download/117204 - 1.2 million.

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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There’s still one mystery for me. I’m now at the iPhone 16. The performance of those chips with 8GB in non throttled environment (Neo..) can run as a fully performant macOS. Yet, as a phone I don’t feel upgraded performance since my SE 1st gen days. Sometimes I get stuttering, basic browsing can get the device pretty warm, sometime camera lags to launch. My usage profile didn’t change much over the years. So I can on…

Yeah, it is a really weird one. Especially iOS is optimized to the gills, there is no real desktop running to speak of and app developers care just a little more than on Android, yet somehow an iPhone can't keep a few apps in memory, yet a MacBook Neo with 8GB RAM does just fine with multiple chunky desktop (often Electron) applications in memory, along with macOS itself being more chunky.

So true and SO annoying.

I have been away from Android for a while, is it any better there?

Re: Xiaomi: New CPU matches Apple cores single threaded, much faster multithreaded

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China is imperialist as any other country. They extract resources from others like the British 100 years ago. This is hilarious that this whole “west is bad” makes people blind. > Imperialism costed millions of lives Chinese policies resulted in 10s of millions of their own people dead, and many millions in labor camps today. Sure, “west is bad” but China “has its problems”.

> China is imperialist as any other country. Sure, but not the way West conducted it, by going and killing generations of people. Look at India, before British colonization they accounted for almost 25% GDP of the world (~1700s), now it is around 3-4% Or lets look at China itself, before the opium wars and British colonization, it accounted for ~30% of the world GDP, by 1970s it dropped to 4-5%, now climbing back to…

> Sure, but not the way West conducted it, by going and killing generations of people.

Ridiculous statement. China is doing it today — uighurs are actively erased bit by bit.

> Look at India, before British colonization they accounted for almost 25% GDP of the world (~1700s), now it is around 3-4%

This statement is rooted in “zero sum” logic, and based on the assumption that without colonization India should have stayed with its 25% or more share. Hypotheticals are hypotheticals, and nothing more.

> You keep defending the West,

I’m not defending anyone. I find it ridiculous that you are so high on “the west is bad, China good” horse and completely oblivious to so many things that China does, which are objectively worse.

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