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Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

StilesCrisis wrote: post #110
CGamesPlay wrote: post #62

> 3.) Fictitious Domain Considerations: As you may know, domains that has ".web" have faced issues related to fictitious domain name usage. While ".one" is not ".web" the combination of the subdomain and TLD triggers similar security protocols. This is an LLM response. It's the classic pattern where the LLM says something completely unrelated to the topic at hand, realizes that it doesn't have a backspace key, and tr…

Has anyone ever tried giving LLMs a backspace? I have long wondered if their responses could be better if they had the ability to correct earlier parts of their text. Imagine how much harder it would be for us to write coherently with no backspace!

Chatgpt will erase text it wants to censor if you get near sensitive topics.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by hkt »

corint wrote: post #97
hkt wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got a .email domain which various UK based retailers insist isn't a real domain from which email can be sent. I've been trying to convince Argos that it is real for about seven years. To their credit, my building society actually took it all on board and fixed their system within a few months. To my incredible surprise, so did a major insurer.

I wonder whether you could use GDPR to force compliance with this. You have the right to correct the record, after all.

Somehow I suspect GDPR isn't engaged there as they forbid the creation of an account in the first place, so they don't store the data. Maybe I could create an account with a different email address and try it then.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by hansvm »

anonzzzies wrote: post #65
an0malous wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m also worried that this is just the future of SaaS where everything is a Kafkaesque nightmare of automated processes no one even understands anymore, and even these incidents are lost in so much complexity the businesses either don’t care or don’t even know it’s happening.

It already is, that’s why I prefer companies I can physically visit. My hosting, email, payments for my company are now places I can reach within hours and just have a chat. In person, people are a lot less nasty and they cannot yet (…) fob me off with an AI.

To be fair, the last time I had an issue with Google I just drove up to the Googleplex, and the front desk was very helpful routing me to the right real person. Proper support otherwise was impossible.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by hansvm »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #53
an0malous wrote: post #31

My business Workspace account got suspended recently, no reason given, can’t even login to contact support. I’m a solo user so I only had one admin account and that was the one locked out. There was just one text field to submit an appeal, so I did. I never got any email confirmation or tracking number for my appeal, it’s been a week now with no contact from Google. This happened about a week after they charged my cr…

I got into self hosting in 2021. A cheap 2.5Gb how from racknerd, $20-22/year, + domain. It's been as smooth sailing as any other email provider. Very satisfied. Try it

I can give racknerd a +1 by the way (compute rental in my case, not email). Prices are good, machines are machines, support exists and is helpful even for off-the-beaten-path issues, and so far they still exist despite seemingly being a small player. I'd use them again (I don't have many points of comparison though, so take this review with a grain of salt).

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by iamtedd »

chrisjj wrote: post #119
CGamesPlay wrote: post #62

> 3.) Fictitious Domain Considerations: As you may know, domains that has ".web" have faced issues related to fictitious domain name usage. While ".one" is not ".web" the combination of the subdomain and TLD triggers similar security protocols. This is an LLM response. It's the classic pattern where the LLM says something completely unrelated to the topic at hand, realizes that it doesn't have a backspace key, and tr…

Plus the idiot bot has confabulated a subdomain.

Why did you post the exact same comment three hours before this one?

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by anonzzzies »

hansvm wrote: post #135
anonzzzies wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It already is, that’s why I prefer companies I can physically visit. My hosting, email, payments for my company are now places I can reach within hours and just have a chat. In person, people are a lot less nasty and they cannot yet (…) fob me off with an AI.

To be fair, the last time I had an issue with Google I just drove up to the Googleplex, and the front desk was very helpful routing me to the right real person. Proper support otherwise was impossible.

Little sad it is like that, but at least local vendors have a chance now again. If they don't want to become 'the biggest' / make 'trillions', then you good service and 100k clients works fine too.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by lbriner »

neuroticnews25 wrote: post #106
natpalmer1776 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There needs to be a Hanlon’s razor but for suspecting something is LLM generated. The typo and grammar mistakes in the response lead me to think it’s a human, but no way to really know.

I refuse to believe there are actual human beings so blatantly splitting a single concept into three artificial points.

Been happening for years. You are not talking to a Developer but someone employed to do "support" who 1) might not know much or 2) think they know a lot but they don't 3) can't tell you the actual reason so try and BS an answer that will make you go away.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by StilesCrisis »

deaton wrote: post #127
zarzavat wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT does this. It will present an initial response, then change its mind partway through the thinking process and present a different response.

Copilot does this too, kinda. It will give an initial response, realize that it might tangentially criticize Microsoft, then change that response to a refusal.

That's not a backspace, that's just a nanny filter. I think all bigco LLMs have something similar. e.g. Claude obviously uses this to prevent Fable from doing security work.
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