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Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by TLDRisk »

sebmellen wrote: post #61
TLDRisk wrote: post #25

> Just for context, this is a premium domain with a very high premium renewal fee, no history of abuse obviously. The registry premium domains on the new TLDs have several issues. The biggest IMO is a lack of price protection. Non-premium domains at least get the cohort based protection from section 2.10c of the registry agreement. So, in addition to being treated as a 2nd rate domain, there’s nothing stopping the re…

Do you have a list of TLDs that don’t charge for premium domains? E.g. I have never seen a Registry Premium .com domain.

Both .com and .net are price controlled. I think for the rest of the gTLDs it would be allowed. There’s a lot of nuance to it. The registry agreement never mentions premium domains, only pricing rules, so being accurate about the rules takes a long explanation. That’s why I made the site I linked.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by pwdisswordfishq »

natpalmer1776 wrote: post #66
CGamesPlay wrote: post #62

> 3.) Fictitious Domain Considerations: As you may know, domains that has ".web" have faced issues related to fictitious domain name usage. While ".one" is not ".web" the combination of the subdomain and TLD triggers similar security protocols. This is an LLM response. It's the classic pattern where the LLM says something completely unrelated to the topic at hand, realizes that it doesn't have a backspace key, and tr…

There needs to be a Hanlon’s razor but for suspecting something is LLM generated. The typo and grammar mistakes in the response lead me to think it’s a human, but no way to really know.

There needs to be a Grey's law but for suspecting something is LLM generated.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by chadgpt3 »

lr0 wrote: post #101

I had a similar experience with Google's support this year when I logged to my older Google account from a new device, and I was automatically logged out from everywhere, when I was trying to login again it asked me to provide an OTP, when I asked the form to send me the OTP, it said that I've done so many attempts. Later, I learnt that this is actually very common problem, if you see the "Me too" count on the Google…

Since "me too" begins with "me", support staff couldn't see it, and assumed it was just one product (human) having the issue.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by Chu4eeno »

StilesCrisis wrote: post #110
CGamesPlay wrote: post #62

> 3.) Fictitious Domain Considerations: As you may know, domains that has ".web" have faced issues related to fictitious domain name usage. While ".one" is not ".web" the combination of the subdomain and TLD triggers similar security protocols. This is an LLM response. It's the classic pattern where the LLM says something completely unrelated to the topic at hand, realizes that it doesn't have a backspace key, and tr…

Has anyone ever tried giving LLMs a backspace? I have long wondered if their responses could be better if they had the ability to correct earlier parts of their text. Imagine how much harder it would be for us to write coherently with no backspace!

Yes, it was invented by an anonymous user on 4chan in the early 2020s, then sanitized by a Google paper some years later as CoT (chain of thought) or thinking tags, where the model iterates on its own before writing a final response.

All models do it now.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by chadgpt3 »

TLDRisk wrote: post #111
sebmellen wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a list of TLDs that don’t charge for premium domains? E.g. I have never seen a Registry Premium .com domain.

Both .com and .net are price controlled. I think for the rest of the gTLDs it would be allowed. There’s a lot of nuance to it. The registry agreement never mentions premium domains, only pricing rules, so being accurate about the rules takes a long explanation. That’s why I made the site I linked.

We really need to replace ICANN.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by chadgpt3 »

zerocrates wrote: post #74
sam_lowry_ wrote: post #3

The end is really hilarious. Google had a stupid frontend-only validation, it seems.

This seems like something more intended to avoid a bunch of pointless attempted signups from people who don't understand what having a domain means who then won't be able to do the later step where you verify that you actually own it. A client-side check's not so unreasonable for that kind of thing. Of course then you still want the list to be accurate and/or actually have some working support flow that results in an…

Yeah but they said it was important security.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by baybal2 »

an0malous wrote: post #31

My business Workspace account got suspended recently, no reason given, can’t even login to contact support. I’m a solo user so I only had one admin account and that was the one locked out. There was just one text field to submit an appeal, so I did. I never got any email confirmation or tracking number for my appeal, it’s been a week now with no contact from Google. This happened about a week after they charged my cr…

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Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by kangalioo »

StilesCrisis wrote: post #110
CGamesPlay wrote: post #62

> 3.) Fictitious Domain Considerations: As you may know, domains that has ".web" have faced issues related to fictitious domain name usage. While ".one" is not ".web" the combination of the subdomain and TLD triggers similar security protocols. This is an LLM response. It's the classic pattern where the LLM says something completely unrelated to the topic at hand, realizes that it doesn't have a backspace key, and tr…

Has anyone ever tried giving LLMs a backspace? I have long wondered if their responses could be better if they had the ability to correct earlier parts of their text. Imagine how much harder it would be for us to write coherently with no backspace!

Thinking mode is exactly this. The LLM is allowed to dump thoughts, correcting itself along the way, and only surfaces the cleaned-up final answer to the user

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by chrisjj »

CGamesPlay wrote: post #62

> 3.) Fictitious Domain Considerations: As you may know, domains that has ".web" have faced issues related to fictitious domain name usage. While ".one" is not ".web" the combination of the subdomain and TLD triggers similar security protocols. This is an LLM response. It's the classic pattern where the LLM says something completely unrelated to the topic at hand, realizes that it doesn't have a backspace key, and tr…

Plus the idiot bot has confabulated a subdomain.

Re: Google Workspace thinks my domain is an email provider (2025)

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Post by debugnik »

eco wrote: post #67
jofzar wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My friend has a short last name, and they still have many websites be like "must be longer then 3 letter"

I was trying to activate Zelle with my bank and since Zelle is used for scams so often I had to do a bunch of identity verification steps while on the phone with my bank. One of them was to submit a photo of my drivers license. After I did that it OCRed out some details and prepopulated a form with my information. Hitting submit gave me an error saying to use my full middle name, not an initial. My full middle name i…

> My full middle name is a single letter though.

I guess you could follow the Simpsons joke and spell the letter's name. I'm adding this one to my personal list of falsehoods programmers believe about names.

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