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Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by greatgib »

robin_reala wrote: post #46
Cider9986 wrote: post #19

I would pay for Brave or Kagi for like $2-3 per month if one of them supported private payments(actually that's exactly what Brave costs). Paying should get you more privacy not less. I'm not paying for Kagi because it's expensive and also doesn't support private payments and Brave has better UI for me. Brave blocks their own ads while not supporting private payments and it doesn't let you use the search premium in V…

Depends on how private you want to be, but you can pay Kagi with Bitcoin[1] and use that to buy privacy pass tokens and access it through Tor.[2] It’s not complete privacy, but it decouples the account from the searches. [1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/payment-methods.html [2] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/tor.html

And in addition, they just ask the minimal info to be able to use the service, an email address, and not a full usual registration.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by rcMgD2BwE72F »

hootz wrote: post #111
bee_rider wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somebody’s got to be paid to write the basic news articles. Maybe we could have a government funded “basic news” (although there are obvious concerns that that might turn into a propaganda service).

They do get paid, they are employees and get a salary. I pay for the premium plan and that funds the company.

Too bad the new Kagi settings does not support allowing some paywalled domains to show up.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by tensor »

delis-thumbs-7e wrote: post #59

I think this is amazing. Love Kagi. I’m happy to pay for a good search. Nobody speaks about their AI Assistant, but it is really good. They somehow harnessed it so that it mainly searches info first and sticks to the verifiable data. I prefer it to Claude or any other, because it actually answers the question I need without fluff or “Great question! Here’s some plausible nonsense you can trip over instead of doing ac…

It truly is a game changer. I often use it before the regular search now. And no joke, it doesn't just save time, I've had it find things that I actually couldn't doing manual search. The reason is because it often knows when there are alternative names for the same sort of product and so can find things that are rebranded or the like.

I agree with you that I'd love to know more about how it works. The citations to real supporting websites are generally very good (though I've seen a few mistakes).

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by al_borland »

stronglikedan wrote: post #128
tempest_ wrote: post #3

I've been enjoying Kagi for the last couple years. Even as LLMs slurp up most of the internet and replace search I think Kagi is still useful. Reddit has recently blocked access to old reddit without an account and the ability to filter out stuff like that is useful.

> Reddit has recently blocked access to old reddit without an account I don't understand why this is a barrier considering their accounts aren't invasive at all since you can use a temporary email account to sign up, and then you never have to do anything via email after that.

They are pretty ban-happy, and generally outright hostile to newly created accounts that try to participate.

I created an account recently after not having one for a couple years. I was banned within 2 weeks. I accidentally connected to my VPN when I had a Reddit page open in a minimized window that I forgot about. I assume that’s what did it. Last I checked, I couldn’t even login with this account anymore.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by [deleted] »

clickety_clack wrote: post #117

I wish Kagi had existed years ago. I just saw someone talking about the Google SEO-laden experience when troubleshooting coding errors and realized it’s a pain I haven’t felt in a long time. It’s telling that Google never made a “remove this site from results” option. Their incentives weren’t set up to provide the best user experience.

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Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by tensor »

frereubu wrote: post #96

The one thing I find slightly grating about links to Kagi blogs is the top comments are almost always "I use Kagi and it's great!" rather than about the content of the blog. And I'm a happy Kagi subscriber! I get that this is an option, but what it really shows to me is how broken the model for journalism is. In my view you almost always only get good-quality journalism if you pay for it. (Somehow - e.g. the BBC is p…

Apple news manages to give access to a variety of mainstream sources for a fixed price. Unfortunately there is no way to block the ads and without an ad-free tier it's a no go for me.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by no-name-here »

mionhe wrote: post #148
no-name-here wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, then how do you expect the journalists, sysadmins, server bills, etc. to get paid without paywalls and ads?

I think this short exchange highlights the problem really well. Most people are uninterested in paying for those services, in part because the internet has trained them that information is free and in part because of fairly extreme polarization in opinions that seems to be everywhere. Arguing that people should pay for the information they consume now is well and good, but that information was something the news comp…

> news companies were giving away for free not that many years ago

Haven't either ads or paywalls/subscriptions always been the primary way that news companies paid for journalists/sysadmins/servers, etc? What was the funding source 'not that many years ago' if not ads or paywalls/subscriptions?

> Arguing that people should pay for the information they consume now is well and good

Is arguing such a thing "well and good"? I'm not complaining, but my GP comment merely asking how the other user expected the sites he wants to get content from will pay their costs (as they said ads and paywalls/subscriptions were out) got downvoted - I'm not even sure that goes as far as arguing that people should help pay for content that they want to receive.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by californical »

Zambyte wrote: post #138
CoffeeOnWrite wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My household is hooked on the AI Assistant. It’s heartwarming to be able to buy consumer software that just works. If only Kagi had a Shopping feature, then it would be a complete solution for us.

> If only Kagi had a Shopping feature, then it would be a complete solution for us. Why?

I’m guessing because it’s valuable to have a trustworthy AI assistant that you can just explain what you want and it finds the best options
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