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Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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I would pay for Brave or Kagi for like $2-3 per month if one of them supported private payments(actually that's exactly what Brave costs). Paying should get you more privacy not less. I'm not paying for Kagi because it's expensive and also doesn't support private payments and Brave has better UI for me. Brave blocks their own ads while not supporting private payments and it doesn't let you use the search premium in V…

Do you use Google instead?

Brave.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

#143

I would pay for Brave or Kagi for like $2-3 per month if one of them supported private payments(actually that's exactly what Brave costs). Paying should get you more privacy not less. I'm not paying for Kagi because it's expensive and also doesn't support private payments and Brave has better UI for me. Brave blocks their own ads while not supporting private payments and it doesn't let you use the search premium in V…

Do you imply that you never order anything online?

My search engine is a digital product that's already free and private and good and is different to when you give someone your home address to send a package.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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The problem with micropayments isn't the tech really, it's that only the users want them but not any publisher. Which is completely reasonable.

Publishers want them and many have tried. It is the other way around, people don't want to make micro payments. Some say they do, but the evidence proves they're wrong. Edit: Typo

Would AI tokens count as a kind of prepaid micropayment?

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

#145

The one thing I find slightly grating about links to Kagi blogs is the top comments are almost always "I use Kagi and it's great!" rather than about the content of the blog. And I'm a happy Kagi subscriber! I get that this is an option, but what it really shows to me is how broken the model for journalism is. In my view you almost always only get good-quality journalism if you pay for it. (Somehow - e.g. the BBC is p…

>you almost always only get good-quality journalism if you pay for it

Often true, but sadly doesn't work in reverse - if you pay for it, it often still isn't good-quality journalism (although your mind will tell you it is, just because you paid for it).

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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ignoring any Russian data isn't that hard

Actually it's kinda hard in a world where very few companies dominate the search index market and there's very few players who license out their data, one of them being a Russian one: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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I prefer ads because pihole blocks them. Paywalls block me, and then I have to reload and ninja enter reader mode, or if I’m reading inclined, find an archive link.

Wait, then how do you expect the journalists, sysadmins, server bills, etc. to get paid without paywalls and ads?

I think this short exchange highlights the problem really well.

Most people are uninterested in paying for those services, in part because the internet has trained them that information is free and in part because of fairly extreme polarization in opinions that seems to be everywhere.

Arguing that people should pay for the information they consume now is well and good, but that information was something the news companies were giving away for free not that many years ago, reinforcing the idea that information should be free.

If there going to make money long term, they're going to have to find a new way to monetize. People are actively blocking the ads and don't want to pay for yet another subscription to content they don't access that often.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Wellp, not for me... Shame, reddit has/had really good answers to a variety of problems that I've had over the years. Not sure if there's a replacement for it, or if there will ever be another.

They are just trying to close the loophole from the scrapers. They are selling content to google et al for their LLMs and they don't want to give it away for free.

You can still add .json to any thread and get the full comments in a single object. The anti scraping features must be a rate limiting thing, because it’s very machine readable otherwise. They just want to push people to be logged in and use the app.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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My household is hooked on the AI Assistant. It’s heartwarming to be able to buy consumer software that just works. If only Kagi had a Shopping feature, then it would be a complete solution for us.

> If only Kagi had a Shopping feature, then it would be a complete solution for us. Why?

i am not sure i understand your question.

presumably they want a shopping feature so that they can shop, and otherwise find Kagi has all of the features they want

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