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Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by OroPla »

demibabs wrote: post #16
SamBam wrote: post #5

Hmmm, so if you are looking for some news item, you'll only find AI-written clickbait articles covered in pop-up ads, rather than any news sites that employ journalists?

Yeah, I don’t get it. Do people want actual journalism to go out of business?

Didn't journalism go out of business decades ago and now not even pretends to be journalism anymore? I feel it has gotten so bad that most younger people alive today do not even realize what journalism is supposed to be: only report the facts, never add your own opinion to the facts, if there is more than one side, ask each side and report what each side has to say without omitting or adding anything. These are just some super basic features of journalism that do not seem to exist anywhere anymore.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by [deleted] »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #33
azan_ wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is asking for money for your work begging? That's interesting take.

You're right, but I'd personally be okay with the paywalled article search results not showing up, since they are ads masquerading as usable search results. If the publisher wants me to subscribe (and many do publish content worth paying for), they can reach me via normal means, versus corrupting my search results.

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Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by bee_rider »

hootz wrote: post #27
demibabs wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I don’t get it. Do people want actual journalism to go out of business?

Paywalling all content sucks, it just makes me leave the website. I pay for a news website from my country that gives me extra cool stuff like opinion articles and cultural highlights from my city, not because they paywall the basic news.

Somebody’s got to be paid to write the basic news articles. Maybe we could have a government funded “basic news” (although there are obvious concerns that that might turn into a propaganda service).

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by DeepLogin »

I use Brave Search+ DuckDuckGo+ Google Image search and that seems to sastify my search requirements while keeping my payment info private.

I don't think I will ever think of subscribing to Kagi metasearch engine, especially since their paywalled search offerings seem to be inferior to other options.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by Cider9986 »

robin_reala wrote: post #46
Cider9986 wrote: post #19

I would pay for Brave or Kagi for like $2-3 per month if one of them supported private payments(actually that's exactly what Brave costs). Paying should get you more privacy not less. I'm not paying for Kagi because it's expensive and also doesn't support private payments and Brave has better UI for me. Brave blocks their own ads while not supporting private payments and it doesn't let you use the search premium in V…

Depends on how private you want to be, but you can pay Kagi with Bitcoin[1] and use that to buy privacy pass tokens and access it through Tor.[2] It’s not complete privacy, but it decouples the account from the searches. [1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/payment-methods.html [2] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/tor.html

Yeah they should use privacy pass for the default accounts as well to decouple payment from account.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by ohyoutravel »

delis-thumbs-7e wrote: post #59

I think this is amazing. Love Kagi. I’m happy to pay for a good search. Nobody speaks about their AI Assistant, but it is really good. They somehow harnessed it so that it mainly searches info first and sticks to the verifiable data. I prefer it to Claude or any other, because it actually answers the question I need without fluff or “Great question! Here’s some plausible nonsense you can trip over instead of doing ac…

I use it for any first pass searches. It’s great. Add a ? at the end of a search and get an annotated answer. Super happy with it and super happy to keep paying. Plus they send me stickers sometimes that go on my laptop that serve as a conversation starter to evangelize Kagi a bit in person. One of the only few services I happily pay for.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by Saris »

optionalsquid wrote: post #31
tempest_ wrote: post #3

I've been enjoying Kagi for the last couple years. Even as LLMs slurp up most of the internet and replace search I think Kagi is still useful. Reddit has recently blocked access to old reddit without an account and the ability to filter out stuff like that is useful.

Alternatively, you can configure Kagi to rewrite Reddit links to point to an alternative front-end via https://kagi.com/settings/redirects ^https://(www\.)?reddit.com|https://safereddit.com EDIT: See here for a list of instances: https://github.com/redlib-org/redlib#instances

LibRedirect is useful for this (and other sites) too if you want it to apply over the whole browser.

Friends send me links to reddit and stuff so it's handy to have an automatic redirect.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by rickstanley »

bradyd wrote: post #35
tome wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you sure? If I visit https://old.reddit.com/r/haskell/ in private mode (i.e. without my auth cookies) then I am asked to log in.

Yeah, that loads right up for me.

Wellp, not for me... Shame, reddit has/had really good answers to a variety of problems that I've had over the years. Not sure if there's a replacement for it, or if there will ever be another.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by Cider9986 »

delis-thumbs-7e wrote: post #59

I think this is amazing. Love Kagi. I’m happy to pay for a good search. Nobody speaks about their AI Assistant, but it is really good. They somehow harnessed it so that it mainly searches info first and sticks to the verifiable data. I prefer it to Claude or any other, because it actually answers the question I need without fluff or “Great question! Here’s some plausible nonsense you can trip over instead of doing ac…

I've also been pleasantly surprised about Brave's search based AI answers. They have been good for months and cite sources.

It will say that nothing in the provided search context has your answer which seems like a simple system prompt but somehow other models from bigger companies have a much harder time saying "I don't know" by default.

Re: Kagi added a setting for removing paywalled links from search results

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Post by teroshan »

Nextgrid wrote: post #15
pelagicAustral wrote: post #2

Killer feature. It would be awesome to have some plugin or userscript to auto-swap the e-begging scammy link for an Archive link instead.

There is a regex replacement feature. You could build a list of known paywall domains to rewrite them to your desired paywall unblocker service.

Exactly: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/redirects.html
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