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Re: Adafruit CEO Limor Fried named Entrepreneur magazine Entrepreneur of 2012

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What do you mean by "same stuff"? Were you selling kits and tools to people who might not have previously thought of themselves as makers, making it super easy to jump in and get started? This is what I think she's got the attention for.

Yes, hobbyist electronic kits were available, both in the US and the UK, in the 90s.

I had some in the late 70s or early 80s. Canada

Re: Adafruit CEO Limor Fried named Entrepreneur magazine Entrepreneur of 2012

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You're embarrassed by a successful entrepreneur? Can you explain to me what is embarrassing to you? Is it the making money part? Is it the understanding a market and serving it part? Is it the education and knowledge sharing to better energize and expand the market part? Is it the persistence, perseverance and timing part? Is it the creation of a legion of folks who never would have participated had they not been giv…

Yes I will. I find it embarrassing in the same way as I find computer science portrayals in movies embarrassing. Hax0r the planet etc... Making money - selling overpriced modules and branded crap for way more than marginal profit (compared to say RS/Farnell/Digikey) and shipping an identity rather than tools to solve problems. Understanding the market - actually they created a new market full of flashing LED cube mac…

I take issue with the suggestion that there is very little education going on, specifically with regard to Adafruit. The tutorials on the site do not go into complete depth when discussing every project they post but the content they produced sets them apart in my mind from, say, MAKE who put their content behind a paywall. They also tend to link excellent resources for addressing topics at a lower level.

Re: Adafruit CEO Limor Fried named Entrepreneur magazine Entrepreneur of 2012

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The DIY electronics movement is entering an incredible phase, similar to what happened to the Internet during the post-boom decade. Companies like Amazon, Google, Twilio, WordPress and others made it easy for non-techies to build awesome applications. Now projects like Arduino, Electric Imp, Little Bits, and Raspberry Pi are doing the same for electronics. You can make a great project without needing to be an electrical engineer. The Internet gave the masses the power of communication and information. DIY electronics are giving the masses the power to build the world around them. Adafruit (and sparkfun!) are bringing that incredible tech to the world.

Re: Adafruit CEO Limor Fried named Entrepreneur magazine Entrepreneur of 2012

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You're embarrassed by a successful entrepreneur? Can you explain to me what is embarrassing to you? Is it the making money part? Is it the understanding a market and serving it part? Is it the education and knowledge sharing to better energize and expand the market part? Is it the persistence, perseverance and timing part? Is it the creation of a legion of folks who never would have participated had they not been giv…

Yes I will. I find it embarrassing in the same way as I find computer science portrayals in movies embarrassing. Hax0r the planet etc... Making money - selling overpriced modules and branded crap for way more than marginal profit (compared to say RS/Farnell/Digikey) and shipping an identity rather than tools to solve problems. Understanding the market - actually they created a new market full of flashing LED cube mac…

I am a software engineer who dabbles in hardware. I know all about OS, algorithms, how to prevent deadlock, how to throw together a jquery web page, etc etc. And I have a rudimentary understanding of electronics. Enough to put together kits and follow tutorials.

But there is a definite upper ceiling I hit for the projects I want to build because I don't have the background. Complex numbers, signal processing, etc - I don't have any of that fundamental stuff as a software guy.

I can write assembler, but I get nervous when trying to implement a PWM because I just don't get it.

It is frustrating to try to learn. All of the kits and guides are tailored for newcomers. I don't even know where to begin as someone who is fairly technically competent, and who has debugging skills, but is missing a chunk of math and theory and rote practice relevant for hardware hacking. Do you know how long it took me to figure out what "Vcc" meant on a datasheet?

So guys like me love these modules because it lets me create my raspberry pi party trick that responds to tweets. (blog post forthcoming.) Or my MIDI-controlled glockenspiel. But your point stands that there is a whole world of innovation that I can conceive of, but cannot put into practice, because you can only go so far with an Ethernet shield.

My raspberry pi twitter device ran out of batteries halfway through the party - I don't know enough to design something more efficient.

So. While I can agree with your points, short of enrolling in my local EE program, what is one to do?

Re: Adafruit CEO Limor Fried named Entrepreneur magazine Entrepreneur of 2012

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Am I the only one who finds the 'maker movement' slightly embarrassing. There are plenty of us before Limor who did the same stuff without the fanfare and movement crap. This isn't a flame - I'm just surprised that the application of spin managed to produce such a ton of noise.

What does it mean when I discover that the things I've been doing forever have suddenly become a "movement"?

I was right all along.

(Perhaps if the movement gets big enough, my son won't get bullied and called a freak for tinkering like I did. Sounds like win to me.)

Re: Adafruit CEO Limor Fried named Entrepreneur magazine Entrepreneur of 2012

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> Persistence, perseverance, timing? None are relevant. Says the guy who gave up the space way back in the 90's while others get magazine stories. Sour grapes are rough man, I'm sorry. But you only embarrass yourself went you vent it so publicly. I won't bother with the rest. You're deriving a lot of self-esteem from your knowledge of things that others don't have. But rather than rejoicing in the spread of that know…

Hardly. I put the kits together in my spare time in the interest of spreading knowledge. The designs were open and published in a magazine in the UK as well. I don't do it any more because I am too damn busy, but the moment I retire, I'm not driving self esteem - I'm just well equipped to say that you can't start without knowing the basics. I actually spent nearly 8 years as an engineering mentor, teaching others so…

You forgot the "get off my lawn" bit. But, honestly, young kids these days want the fast feedback, and the likes of Ida help make the hobby approachable.

Re: Adafruit CEO Limor Fried named Entrepreneur magazine Entrepreneur of 2012

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Persistence, perseverance, timing? None are relevant. Says the guy who gave up the space way back in the 90's while others get magazine stories. Sour grapes are rough man, I'm sorry. But you only embarrass yourself went you vent it so publicly. I won't bother with the rest. You're deriving a lot of self-esteem from your knowledge of things that others don't have. But rather than rejoicing in the spread of that know…

Hardly. I put the kits together in my spare time in the interest of spreading knowledge. The designs were open and published in a magazine in the UK as well. I don't do it any more because I am too damn busy, but the moment I retire, I'm not driving self esteem - I'm just well equipped to say that you can't start without knowing the basics. I actually spent nearly 8 years as an engineering mentor, teaching others so…

Don't get discouraged by nasty replies.

Unfortunately, I observe the same trend - the whole generation of current 15-20 are shortcutting as a life style. Instead of engineering/making things, I observe this in other areas - finance, economics, accounting, math, stats... Sad to say my son is a good example here.

Re: Adafruit CEO Limor Fried named Entrepreneur magazine Entrepreneur of 2012

#58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, hobbyist electronic kits were available, both in the US and the UK, in the 90s.

I had some in the late 70s or early 80s. Canada

Back in the early '60s (or late '50s) I had a thing called a Brainiac kit[0] - a minor league version of an IBM wire panel: I wired it up to play tic-tac-toe.

[0] http://www.word-detective.com/2007/07/brainiac/

Re: Adafruit CEO Limor Fried named Entrepreneur magazine Entrepreneur of 2012

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, hobbyist electronic kits were available, both in the US and the UK, in the 90s.

I had some in the late 70s or early 80s. Canada

Back in the early '60s (or late '50s) I had a thing called a Brainiac kit[0] - a minor league version of an IBM wire panel: I wired it up to play tic-tac-toe.

[0] http://www.word-detective.com/2007/07/brainiac/

Re: Adafruit CEO Limor Fried named Entrepreneur magazine Entrepreneur of 2012

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hardly. I put the kits together in my spare time in the interest of spreading knowledge. The designs were open and published in a magazine in the UK as well. I don't do it any more because I am too damn busy, but the moment I retire, I'm not driving self esteem - I'm just well equipped to say that you can't start without knowing the basics. I actually spent nearly 8 years as an engineering mentor, teaching others so…

Don't get discouraged by nasty replies. Unfortunately, I observe the same trend - the whole generation of current 15-20 are shortcutting as a life style. Instead of engineering/making things, I observe this in other areas - finance, economics, accounting, math, stats... Sad to say my son is a good example here.

I work in the financial services sector now. We see the same thing with maths, stats and finance as well as electronics. People can't even do basic projection calculations such as TVM because they don't know what a logarithm is.

True knowledge is rotting.

The only advantage is that if you know your shit, then you're in an incredibly better situation than anyone else.

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