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The weekend is 100 years old

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Re: The weekend is 100 years old

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Post by dzonga »

toasty228 wrote: post #43
Gecko4072 wrote: post #40

For the elders here, what are the actual ways to not live under the rule of an industrial clock? I’m not talking about starting your own company get rich quick scheme or moving into the woods (unless..), but really, I don’t see many ways about it. You could move somewhere rural, lower expenses, but then you are socially isolated to an extent. So, move to where people are, oh but then the only way to support the lifes…

> You could move somewhere rural, lower expenses, but then you are socially isolated to an extent. I got more social interactions the first week I moved to my house built in the middle of nowhere eastern europe than in my 10 years in a western EU capital. Small communities are much more alive than gigantic ones. You do lose some convenience, but it's not as bad is it used to be, for exemple there is a 24/7 automated…

this is true I have noticed that in rural africa too vs any surburb like city in america.

Re: The weekend is 100 years old

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Post by hamper653 »

Timon3 wrote: post #159
hamper653 wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Right. WeekEND. It's the end of the week. This only works in English though. The rest of us use the word "weekend" as a block.

It also works in German, Dutch, and presumably lots of other languages. In which ones does it not work?

In French. "End of week" would be "fin de semaine" but we don’t say that, we say "weekend". Which is understood as these two days when most people don’t work.

If anything, "fin de semaine" would refer to the last working days before the weekend.

Re: The weekend is 100 years old

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Post by nunez »

tanjtanjtanj wrote: post #136
stevecoalbear wrote: post #16

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It once came up whether my grandmother went to music festivals in her youth. Of course not, she said, they hadn't been invented yet! They didn't have electronic music, because they didn't have electronics. And nobody was playing guitar on stage for 12 hours. You could hold a short small concert in a hall, but you couldn't hold a big rave.

That's not quite right (other than the electronic part obviously). There were traveling coach shows, dance and performance halls, and at a minimum week-long performance events (religious ones too) before anyone here on earth was alive.

There were medicine shows in the late 19th and early 20th centuries that drew insane crowds. William Kellogg (of Kellogg's fame) supposedly had legendary crowds.

Re: The weekend is 100 years old

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Post by blini-kot »

"Ford did not invent the weekend – the idea had been bubbling under for a century, in campaigns by trade unions, religious groups and progressive employers – but by putting his considerable industrial weight behind it, the two-day chunk of freedom was born."

I have not seen a passage more ignorant of the history of class struggle in a long while

You know, "the idea was bubbling", wonder why it never got implemented until 1926? Maybe the work day was not always 8 hours too? What a marvel!

Re: The weekend is 100 years old

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Post by tavavex »

deadbabe wrote: post #130
meibo wrote: post #72

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That only works until they realize what's going on. Then you will be expected to output so much that you will have to prompt for 40 hours a week.

Actually, I will just automate better prompts to put out 40 hours worth of prompting per week, but still working 2 or 3 hours.

Actually, if we could recursively automate things on higher levels with the same tech without ever reaching diminishing returns, we'd be finishing up the colonization of our galaxy right about now. Since that didn't happen, it's safe to say they will find that point of diminishing returns where you need to do more manual work, and make you put in full effort, like what always happened.

Re: The weekend is 100 years old

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Post by MotoriX »

Transformanshen wrote: post #30

Interesting article. I never thought about how important it is not just how many days off you have, but also when exactly you have them. It's really bad when you have days off, but you can't see your family. I actually like the concept of a four-day workweek. I wonder if it will ultimately prove successful, and if the whole world will adopt it?

Ultimately, it’ll be up to individual companies. For most of them, though, a four-day workweek probably won’t make much sense if they have to pay the same salaries - it’s just not that profitable for the employer. That said, I’d personally love to have more time for the people close to me and, honestly, just live life a little more fully.

Re: The weekend is 100 years old

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Post by unsane »

Gecko4072 wrote: post #40

For the elders here, what are the actual ways to not live under the rule of an industrial clock? I’m not talking about starting your own company get rich quick scheme or moving into the woods (unless..), but really, I don’t see many ways about it. You could move somewhere rural, lower expenses, but then you are socially isolated to an extent. So, move to where people are, oh but then the only way to support the lifes…

Spend far below your means. Don't scale your spending with your earnings.

Re: The weekend is 100 years old

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Post by ciupicri »

Hikikomori wrote: post #158
ciupicri wrote: post #94

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One of my high school teachers couldn't give a ... rat's ass about unions and strikes and teachers had it pretty bad back then; they still do today. Not everyone drinks the communist kool aid sold today by Bernie Sanders and AOC in America. Some of us have already experienced firsthand the "benefits" of communism. By the way, while the work week in the US was only 5 days long, in communist Romania it was still 6 days…

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WTF are you talking about?

Re: The weekend is 100 years old

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Post by vander_elst »

hamper653 wrote: post #138
vander_elst wrote: post #96

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Very curious to understand the thinking behind this, why should the weekend be E and A? My first approach would be to have the weekend on D and E which would seem to be the end of the week.

> Very curious to understand the thinking behind this, why should the weekend be E and A? So that the extra day on leap years could be inserted in a weekend while having its own unique number.

That would also just work with D E and F. Or am I missing something?
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