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Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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Most of these are authored by what appear to be non-native English speakers. So, the most likely explanation is a translation issue. In engineering literature from Russia from the 1960s, one sometimes finds references to a ‘water goat’ in papers that are otherwise about heavy machinery. It turns out this is a twice-translated rendition of ‘hydraulic ram’.

Hey, it's not that easy to chose between "водяной баран" and "гидравлический таран", you know.

My favourite example of troubled blind translation is still "naked conductor runs under the carriage".

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about "lactose bigotry" instead of "lactose intolerance" https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22lactose+bigotry%22

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So the euphemism treadmill is spinning the other direction

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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Here is one hypothesis: https://theconversation.com/problematic-paper-screener-trawl... Have you ever heard of the Joined Together States? Or bosom peril? Kidney disappointment? Fake neural organizations? Lactose bigotry? These nonsensical, and sometimes amusing, word sequences are among thousands of “tortured phrases” that sleuths have found littered throughout reputable scientific journals. They typically result fr…

During the whole BLM thing a few years ago my emplyer wanted "to do something" I guess so they added one of those "inclusive language" SaaS buttons. This seems more plausible to me. "Bosom peril" is not in any way a synonym for cancer. But if you think 'cancer' as a word will trigger people then softening it with 'peril' makes sense.

You sure it isn't a euphemism for "heart attack"?

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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Most of these are authored by what appear to be non-native English speakers. So, the most likely explanation is a translation issue. In engineering literature from Russia from the 1960s, one sometimes finds references to a ‘water goat’ in papers that are otherwise about heavy machinery. It turns out this is a twice-translated rendition of ‘hydraulic ram’.

> engineering literature from Russia from the 1960s, one sometimes finds references to a ‘water goat’

Oh, that's where it comes from!

My dad told me something close when I was a kid, but according to him it was the early EU doing dictionary translation between English and French and getting "water sheep". I never could find it.

Through an unrelated anecdote, in my head this is now bound to the music of "smoke on the water", with a sheep impression for the guitar (bass?) — "Sheep on the water, ba baa baaah, ba ba ba baaah"

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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In the spring semester this year my teacher friends said they were getting a lot of student work that was unusually well written compared to the student’s other work, but also contain unnatural typos throughout. The students were using ChatGPT and thought they would trick the teacher by editing some typos in before submission. The cheating market is moving fast. There are now tools you can use to rephrase LLM generat…

Cheating detection technology will be a cat and mouse game, but a good teacher who knows his students will spot cheating almost immediately (proving it might be more difficult).

The only solution is to evaluate students in ways that they can't cheat. Hand-written exams in class, oral exams, etc. but that is quite time-consuming and most teachers at least in K-12 are already overloaded.

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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Nothing beats when, in a chemistry paper, AI paraphrased „the final solution” into „the mass killing of an ethnic group”. “Subsequently, 1 mL of the mass killing of an ethnic group was opposed to 20 mL of the skin sample and unprotected to light for 7 min.” From: https://bsky.app/profile/forbetterscience.bsky.social/post/3...

African American-tie dinner. Spin City 1996.

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Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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Nothing beats when, in a chemistry paper, AI paraphrased „the final solution” into „the mass killing of an ethnic group”. “Subsequently, 1 mL of the mass killing of an ethnic group was opposed to 20 mL of the skin sample and unprotected to light for 7 min.” From: https://bsky.app/profile/forbetterscience.bsky.social/post/3...

This doesn‘t sound like AI. LLMs do not use dictionary definitions for translating a paper this way. It does look like some translation engine like Google Translate or worse, maybe with some text obfuscator trying to avoid plagiarism detection.

LLMs are not the only form of AI.
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