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Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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It's actually pretty funny to look for such synonym expressions https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22h... turns up a few more. If you want to read more, I believe those are called "tortured phrases"

Well, yes, and I call them 'distressed phrases'

Expressions subjected to enhanced interrogation.

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This doesn‘t sound like AI. LLMs do not use dictionary definitions for translating a paper this way. It does look like some translation engine like Google Translate or worse, maybe with some text obfuscator trying to avoid plagiarism detection.

That sounds like Anthrophics watermark explanation though.

Anthropic’s watermark is just using a known collection of random seeds during output token generation. That’s it. The models always relied on some randomness, here the randomness is fixed and remembered for querying later.

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Here is one hypothesis: https://theconversation.com/problematic-paper-screener-trawl... Have you ever heard of the Joined Together States? Or bosom peril? Kidney disappointment? Fake neural organizations? Lactose bigotry? These nonsensical, and sometimes amusing, word sequences are among thousands of “tortured phrases” that sleuths have found littered throughout reputable scientific journals. They typically result fr…

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Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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This is a really confusing one, since neither the "AI generated paper" nor "translation issue" explanations hold. I found [1], created all the way back in 2021, which seems to first introduce this "kidney disappointment" term, and I would have to assume that perhaps the authors preferred to translate it from their native language. LLMs did not exist in their current form in 2021, so couldn't have used it to write dow…

LLMs were not available in 2021, but "Google translate" is much older. Such translations were not unusual. Around 2017 to 2019 I used a lot "Google translate", because it saved time despite its flaws, but there never was even a single sentence that I could let exactly as generated by "Google translate". In each sentence I had to change at least a word or two, and many were hilarious. This was for translations between…

LLMs were absolutely available in 2021; the architecture is from 2017 and stuff like GPT-2 and BERT had been around for years. Conversational assistants, ie. ChatGPT, started in 2022.

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Here is one hypothesis: https://theconversation.com/problematic-paper-screener-trawl... Have you ever heard of the Joined Together States? Or bosom peril? Kidney disappointment? Fake neural organizations? Lactose bigotry? These nonsensical, and sometimes amusing, word sequences are among thousands of “tortured phrases” that sleuths have found littered throughout reputable scientific journals. They typically result fr…

During the whole BLM thing a few years ago my emplyer wanted "to do something" I guess so they added one of those "inclusive language" SaaS buttons.

This seems more plausible to me. "Bosom peril" is not in any way a synonym for cancer. But if you think 'cancer' as a word will trigger people then softening it with 'peril' makes sense.

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Nothing beats when, in a chemistry paper, AI paraphrased „the final solution” into „the mass killing of an ethnic group”. “Subsequently, 1 mL of the mass killing of an ethnic group was opposed to 20 mL of the skin sample and unprotected to light for 7 min.” From: https://bsky.app/profile/forbetterscience.bsky.social/post/3...

How about "lactose bigotry" instead of "lactose intolerance" https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22lactose+bigotry%22

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I accidentally did this myself not long ago. Like everyone else I'm tired of cookie banners so I had ChatGPT make a law against it, it used "act" in its version, I search-and-replaced it with "Law" before getting Claude to ratify it. Claude pointed out the search-and-replace replacement, oops. The conversation links are in my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48585778 and you can see Claude found the…

I’m having a hard time figuring out if this State of Utopia thing is tongue-in-cheek or serious.

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Nothing beats when, in a chemistry paper, AI paraphrased „the final solution” into „the mass killing of an ethnic group”. “Subsequently, 1 mL of the mass killing of an ethnic group was opposed to 20 mL of the skin sample and unprotected to light for 7 min.” From: https://bsky.app/profile/forbetterscience.bsky.social/post/3...

I had sent this an hour ago as a quote with a few others (lactose bigotry, of course the kidney disappointment) to someone via iMessage. The Apple Intelligence summary was unfortunately not screenshotted by them, but I am told it was a doozy...

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Here is one hypothesis: https://theconversation.com/problematic-paper-screener-trawl... Have you ever heard of the Joined Together States? Or bosom peril? Kidney disappointment? Fake neural organizations? Lactose bigotry? These nonsensical, and sometimes amusing, word sequences are among thousands of “tortured phrases” that sleuths have found littered throughout reputable scientific journals. They typically result fr…

During the whole BLM thing a few years ago my emplyer wanted "to do something" I guess so they added one of those "inclusive language" SaaS buttons. This seems more plausible to me. "Bosom peril" is not in any way a synonym for cancer. But if you think 'cancer' as a word will trigger people then softening it with 'peril' makes sense.

It's not a woke sensitivity thing. They're using spinners, tools designed for spammers years ago (long predating LLMs) that just randomly substitute words from a thesaurus.

It works because so many academic journals are write-only media. The only things that actually "read" the papers are machines that check for plagiarism, compute citation counts and do other things used to decide on academic promotions. So it doesn't matter if the text is nonsensical.

And the tools work for spam, the original use case, because people who want to buy Viagra from spam mails don't care if they have to read weird English, they just want to find the web shops. Works great for bypassing keyword and Bayesian filters though.

Some papers show signs of being generated by context-free grammars or random phrase combination as well.

These papers are often being produced by "paper mills" that bulk generate fake studies and sell them to academics, who use them to get promoted without having to do any real research.

I wrote an article about the problem years ago if you want to learn more:

https://dailysceptic.org/2021/10/03/436-randomly-generated-p...

Re: Research papers using "kidney disappointment" instead of "kidney failure"

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This is a really confusing one, since neither the "AI generated paper" nor "translation issue" explanations hold. I found [1], created all the way back in 2021, which seems to first introduce this "kidney disappointment" term, and I would have to assume that perhaps the authors preferred to translate it from their native language. LLMs did not exist in their current form in 2021, so couldn't have used it to write dow…

It fits the "naive deplagiarization" explanation perfectly, however. Many of them are pre-LLM, when people had to plagiarize things the good old-fashioned way, and subsequently hide that fact via synonym replacement.

Before LLMs, SEO content spammers used something called an "article spinner" which could rewrite lots of versions of the same article (which may or may not be someone else's article) by substituting synonyms, producing just enough variation to not get flagged as duplicate content by search engines. Some of the substitutions produced truly bizarre writing, but those pages were written for Googlebot to count the back links, not for human readers. This looks like what you'd get if you turned random substitutions down to a minimum to avoid plagiarism detection...
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