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The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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>The Robert Johnson they kept being confused with wasn’t a man named Robert Johnson. It was a known alias of someone convicted of plotting to bomb a Hindu temple and a cinema in Toronto Also, sold his soul to the devil at a crossroads, so you gotta be careful.

Hahahahahaha

I appreciate the humor and musical knowledge

And I'm surprised that your joke didn't get more laughs or comments on HN. There is life outside of screens ;)

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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It used to be very common for migrants to change their surnames, although less so now. There used to be a person who wrote about Scottish Lithuanians called John Millar, who was born as Jonas Stepšys. Noam Chomsky had said that his family's surname was substantially altered after they went to the USA.

And older example: Warner brothers were born as Wonsal (or Wonskolaser), and they changed their names too (Hirsz became Harry, Aaron became Albert).

There are tonnes of them. Especially Eastern Europeans and Jews. Italians sometimes too. Still happens in entertainment, since Steve Carell and Nicholas Cage's real names are more Italian sounding.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Attaching numbers to people is unbelievably creepy. My identity is not a number. We recoil at the idea of having assigned and tattooed numbers on our bodies and I don't feel it's okay to do it, just so you could maybe avoid misidentification.

You are the one somehow conflating an identity card with your actual identity as a self, which seems extremely strange and spurious.

The one conflating the two isn't the author, but the state. A fixation on the state sanctioned representation of someone's identity instead of the actual, living person himself is exactly what caused TFA's author troubles.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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This is one of the obvious consequences of not having a national identity number assigned to everyone at birth, which exist in most developed countries, except for anglosphere, for some reason.

He has a passport with a number on it. Why isn't that sufficient? There are also multiple countries involved in this story.

When you renew your passport, the new one will have a new serial. Not matching a passport serial doesn't mean anything. Not matching a national identity number does.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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This has been going on for a long time. In the early 2000s I knew someone with the relatively common name Ian Smith who was routinely held up in airports because someone else with that name was on a watch list. I think in the end he managed to get some kind of stamp in his passport that officially said "not that Ian Smith", and it seems mad this isn't easier to resolve these days.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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post #19

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And older example: Warner brothers were born as Wonsal (or Wonskolaser), and they changed their names too (Hirsz became Harry, Aaron became Albert).

There are tonnes of them. Especially Eastern Europeans and Jews. Italians sometimes too. Still happens in entertainment, since Steve Carell and Nicholas Cage's real names are more Italian sounding.

Hah. Cage changed his last name because he didn't want to be a "nepo-baby"... You should look up that Italian-sounding last name and see who it belongs to.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Oh, the classic Tuttle Buttle name confusion!

I always remember the movie Brazil when I have to interact with a stupid cybernetic apparatus like every big company, where simple programs are the brain and low-paid humans are the actuators.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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If they put an ID on a sanction list, there’s a possibility to verify it. They could verify that it actually belongs to the person they want to sanction before putting it on the list. Failing that, the actual person can prove that they don’t belong on the list by verifying their identity. Verifying identity is a much simpler problem than establishing identity.

> If they put an ID on a sanction list, there’s a possibility to verify it They didn't care to figure out if the Sean Byrne of County Sligo actually existed before putting the name on the list. I doubt they would bother verifying an ID number. Plus, going back to my point about the list being full of foreigners, how do you verify the validity of a foreign ID number and address? Maybe Ireland is going to comply with a…

Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. As you said, Ireland might comply, which would’ve solved this particular issue.

Re: The other Sean Byrne doesn't exist

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Is your identity a string of letters? Don't be ridiculous.

Yes, if there is a set of strings that can uniquely identify you, and you can't have it removed, nor act like somebody else, it's your identity. Even GDPR admits it

So, your name is also this sort of identifier. But an “identifier” is not an “identity” in the way you mean it. Sometimes words are used in multiple ways.
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