Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index • Hacker News Board

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by AussieWog93 » Thu, Aug 13, 2026, 1:03 AM UTC

michaelmrose wrote: post #325

tsegratis wrote: post #313

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i read an independent study that found other ai were all left of center (how ever one measures that, sentiment analysis normalized to a given population??). they said grok was evenly left/right split but what's to validate any given population as centrist anyway they suggested the ai opinion drift was caused by internet demographics not directly reflecting actual population i.e. California publishes more etc

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Man, I got ready to debunk this but just questioned my life choices instead.

Why the fuck am I glued to my smartphone arguing with people posting shit like this instead of spending time with my daughters, creating new things or looking after my own body and soul.

Michael, please copy your comment verbatim into any LLM with search capabilities and ask for primary sources that confirm or deny your statements, and break down the beliefs by party.

Then, use your real flesh and meat brain to ponder where your (not other peoples' - your own) beliefs about this came from, and what their motivations for blasting them at you could be.

Goodbye HN, I think I'm done with this site for good.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by zzzoom » Thu, Aug 13, 2026, 1:03 AM UTC

krakrum wrote: post #185

UltraSane wrote: post #105

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Except EUV lithography is the most complicated industrial process that exists and they won't have usable yields for many years if ever. I don't think Musk actually expects these fans to ever actually make sense they just let him hype and distract.

Light generation is the most complicated part and Elon plans on doing Free Electron Laser (FEL) which is not as complicated as self contained tin based solution that ASML uses now

Wow, if only the Chinese knew that! So easy!

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by zzzoom » Thu, Aug 13, 2026, 1:06 AM UTC

rd wrote: post #113

I'm just wondering why they sold compute to Anthropic if they were planning on still competing in this race?

Each minute that a GPU isn't running is money evaporating

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by notfromhere » Thu, Aug 13, 2026, 1:13 AM UTC

snapplebobapple wrote: post #340

Computer0 wrote: post #327

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I avoid Grok for meaningful token spend on purpose/boycotting. I do check in via openrouter occasionally to check it's chat performance which has seemed fine to me since 4. My total grok spend has been ~$2. I disagree with his politics to a huge degree. My token spend at api rates is about $3000 usd a month recently.

Which part of his politics?

Might be his commitment to fascism across the western world

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by notfromhere » Thu, Aug 13, 2026, 1:14 AM UTC

AussieWog93 wrote: post #351

michaelmrose wrote: post #325

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Man, I got ready to debunk this but just questioned my life choices instead. Why the fuck am I glued to my smartphone arguing with people posting shit like this instead of spending time with my daughters, creating new things or looking after my own body and soul. Michael, please copy your comment verbatim into any LLM with search capabilities and ask for primary sources that confirm or deny your statements, and break…

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Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by throw10920 » Thu, Aug 13, 2026, 1:21 AM UTC

pzo wrote: post #187

small_model wrote: post #62

SpaceXAI is the only frontier model company that had its own compute/date centres and soon chip making factory, I think they will pull ahead with cheaper tokens similar intelligence and better harness/tools. Grok build is 2-5x faster than Claude Code in my opinion.

>> I think they will pull ahead with cheaper tokens similar intelligence they just increased cache read from 0.30 to 0.50 - this has the biggest impact on agentic coding. Elon companies have the most expensive everything: xAI sub: $30 when other starts at $20, pro like sub for $300 where other charge $200. Expensive electric cars, powerwalls, solar roofs when competetive products/better are cheaper.

> xAI sub: $30 when other starts at $20, pro like sub for $300 where other charge $200.

This is meaningless because you're not controlling for amount of subsidized usage or model quality.

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by throw10920 » Thu, Aug 13, 2026, 1:22 AM UTC

dongttebayo wrote: post #307

davidguetta wrote: post #214

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"everythin you don't like" is not a scientific argument, neither is the illegality of data centers on AI quality

So you’re asserting that the ends justify the means or? I’m confused by how your reply makes sense in the context of the parent comment. They weren’t stating a preference, they were linking to simple facts. Please do better.

> So you’re asserting that the ends justify the means or?

No, they're not. You're making up things and pretending that they said them.

> Please do better.

You're badly breaking the HN guidelines. Please review them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by LastTrain » Thu, Aug 13, 2026, 1:26 AM UTC

randomNumber7 wrote: post #290

LastTrain wrote: post #260

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I don’t like what is happening in my country, Elon is a huge part of that and I don’t want to reward it. I’m not a fanatic, but if all other things are equal I can certainly factor social responsibility into the equation. Fuck that rage baiting xenophobic nazi-salute throwing asshole. [edit spelling]

You are confusing cause and effect imho.

Pretty sure Elon’s brain caused his arm to go up in a Nazi salute

Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by wfvr » Thu, Aug 13, 2026, 1:28 AM UTC

milchek wrote: post #343

soVeryTired wrote: post #310

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Out of interest, do Musk's politics impact your decision on whether or not to use Grok? I'd be interested to know where folks lie on the (Agree / Disagree) and (Use / Don't use) axes.

Interesting question. I suppose it comes down to how much you allocate his involvement or presence to a product? I’d imagine Grok is built by hundreds of engineers who are all unique individuals from various backgrounds. If Elon simply “leads” from a very surface level where he has no direct day to day involvement in Grok releases does that make it more palatable? Or is the question really about how involved he is? O…

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Re: Grok 4.6 scores 61 on the Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index

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Post by throwaway314155 » Thu, Aug 13, 2026, 1:34 AM UTC

ModernMech wrote: post #259

embedding-shape wrote: post #251

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> Honestly, this entire OpenAI reset credit fiasco this past week Huh, what's happened? I'm on the 20x plan and haven't noticed any fiasco, what went down exactly?

Nothing really, when model usage goes up they do a credit. They did two last week.

Isn't this a _good_ thing??