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Re: Grok Bot

#131

So OpenClaw that steals your data and profiles you for the US gov. No thanks.

yeah, it really feels like the economics of AI are going to settle on trust - who do you trust to act on your behalf, because that's where the real value comes in.

and at the same time, it feels like all the AI companies - not just elon - are doing everything they can to burn trust.

Re: Grok Bot

#132
post #23

I've been using it for the last month or so. IMO in the same way we went from tab complete -> prompts -> agents, this feels like a next step on that evolution. I highly suspect others will be following suit. I was surprised with how much it felt natural to interact with agents in this way. Biggest advantage is each one owns its own routines, context, and domain, and they can communicate between each other. Similar to…

> I wanted to make something that didn't feel like just my logo on a shirt, so I had one of my bots reach out to ~40 fabric suppliers in vietnam, negotiate prices, lock one in, and get samples made. Isn't this one of the problems foreseen with this? For you, it was a single prompt - for 40 companies, this probably took up some time. What happens when fifty people fire off a 15-second "get me a shirt" prompt? When fiv…

I haven't encountered bots but I've had several clients now send excel spreadsheets with requirements with just endless laundry lists of duplicate and semi duplicate and conflicting requirements. I strongly suspect they were the result of AI. These client's paid for the meeting digging through the mess so no loss but man ... it was horrible.

The primary person responsible couldn't explain much at all but man they were proud they came up with some brutal spreadsheets.

Re: Grok Bot

#133
post #23

I've been using it for the last month or so. IMO in the same way we went from tab complete -> prompts -> agents, this feels like a next step on that evolution. I highly suspect others will be following suit. I was surprised with how much it felt natural to interact with agents in this way. Biggest advantage is each one owns its own routines, context, and domain, and they can communicate between each other. Similar to…

> I highly suspect others will be following suit.

There is

https://github.com/block/buzz

https://buzz.xyz/

though currently much worse

Re: Grok Bot

#134

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It's crazy dude, whenever we put up a job ad it's filled with thousands of LLM generated fake candidates in a few days. Looking at the examples they show here it is making more sense. Also where all the "content" on LinkedIn comes from.

Only way I was able to get a job recently was via one of a few recruitment firms I was working with. Presumably this will become more common. Basically vendors "selling" actual real humans they vetted.

Would you be comfortable sharing some of the recruitment firms that you worked with? I'm a Real Live Human gearing up to reenter the job market, and I've been getting pitches for these via email and LinkedIn but my difficulty has been in knowing which of THOSE are Real Live Humans and not just vivecoded bots spamming employers with my resume on my behalf (which feels ineffective, but also more importantly, like an unprofessional faux pas that I'd rather not be associated with)

Re: Grok Bot

#135
post #40

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A reasonable pushback. It originally only reached out to 5, didnt hear back, so reached out to 5 more. I personally pushed it to reach out to an additional 30 after that. One of the difficulties of sourcing this is a lot of the suppliers in vietnam are only contactable via whatsapp. Emails are monitored far less. It's one of the reasons I haven't been successful with this in the past despite trying - it's a very word…

I don't think your reply addresses the point of my comment at all, which is that people receiving messages from AI agents isn't scalable in the same way that people sending messages from AI agents is.

I think in the abstract there's a lot to be concerned about with that. However, I don't see it in this particular case. It's a real customer with a real order and real money, going through proper business channels to place an order. The only thing that was possibly automation overboard here was reaching out to so many suppliers when the original ones didn't respond -- there's a question of how long they waited and how long is considered reasonable turnaround for this kind of supplier. But this is just buying a thing that vendors are selling, in the way they expect to sell it, and in the end resulted in a closed deal.

Re: Grok Bot

#136
post #121

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I assume they store your session state/token for whatever SaaS it needs to work with but not the creds.

Many people assumed they didnt upload your whole home dir when you launched their IDE

Yeah, assuming that X is doing the honest and well-behaved thing is a mistake given their past actions.

Re: Grok Bot

#137
post #64

Interesting how everyone seems to be following OpenAI on UX. When I used Antigravity and they suddenly switched to Codex type UI I was very annoyed because I kept checking if this is Codex or Antigravity. Either way, I still don't think that computer use is solved. It worked horribly on Codex and Antigravity the last time I tried. Maybe I was doing something wrong.

It's quite a bit different, namely that ChatGPT Work has both local conversations and cloud agents. But for each cloud agent, you are spinning up and tearing down a new VM each time. This is an always-on Linux box, which stays logged in. Additionally, your bots can talk to each other (although Codex did have the ability to reference threads, I am not sure if one thread could send messages to other threads).

Re: Grok Bot

#138
post #18

Pricing: https://x.ai/bot

Interesting that the pricing is "Cursor Ultra" and "Cursor Premium Teams." This very much feels like the Code --> Cowork product iteration.

It works with the highest tier Cursor/Grok accounts during the beta.

Re: Grok Bot

#139

I feel like we'd be better off if we just stopped at chatbots...why are we so eager to make the internet even more botted

The internet sucks. Yesterday, I had my agent search for openings for The Odyssey that fit my requirements and then book them. It was way better than manually looking at seat maps for 20 different showtimes and going through 10 steps just to buy the tickets.

Re: Grok Bot

#140

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> Is it allowed to use automated tools to interact with any system? I'd hope so, because that's what we're doing right now. Your browser is automatically speaking HTTP for you so that you don't have to. Am I having a bit of a laugh? Maybe. But really, services should be user-agent agnostic. That's the whole "agent" part of User Agent and the founders of the Internet had incredible foresight to name it this way. > Is…

> request data and receive what the other server voluntarily transmits? Taking your position to its logical conclusion implies that we shouldn't try to mitigate DDoSes either. In many cases, what the other server voluntarily transmits has so far been based on the tacit assumption that a person, with person-level time and computational power, is doing the receiving. While in principle a machine could be doing it even…

> Taking your position to its logical conclusion implies that we shouldn't try to mitigate DDoSes either.

Not really. At any time you can, and should, choose not to reply to traffic that is wasting your bandwidth - ban IPs, use DDOS mitigation services, etc. My position is simply that regulation doesn't belong in this space, and it's ok for the 'net to be a dog eat dog world. Kind of what keeps technology advancing and exciting.

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