I feel like we'd be better off if we just stopped at chatbots...why are we so eager to make the internet even more botted
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#102I've been using it for the last month or so. IMO in the same way we went from tab complete -> prompts -> agents, this feels like a next step on that evolution. I highly suspect others will be following suit. I was surprised with how much it felt natural to interact with agents in this way. Biggest advantage is each one owns its own routines, context, and domain, and they can communicate between each other. Similar to…
> I wanted to make something that didn't feel like just my logo on a shirt, so I had one of my bots reach out to ~40 fabric suppliers in vietnam, negotiate prices, lock one in, and get samples made. Isn't this one of the problems foreseen with this? For you, it was a single prompt - for 40 companies, this probably took up some time. What happens when fifty people fire off a 15-second "get me a shirt" prompt? When fiv…
This is what happens when you place a "contact us for a quote" form on your website. You will get a high percentage of requests that lead no where. Do you have any experience with a company that receives RFQs to land business? You will spend a lot of time answering all of the questions and digging around to ensure you can actually do what is requested spending days/weeks on it. Only for the work to go somewhere else. In fact, a lot of places require multiple quotes for work, so when they have someone they know they want to work with, they still have to have other companies spin their wheels. They have no qualms about it knowing they are wasting the other companies' time. It's pretty much how things are done.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wanted to make something that didn't feel like just my logo on a shirt, so I had one of my bots reach out to ~40 fabric suppliers in vietnam, negotiate prices, lock one in, and get samples made. Isn't this one of the problems foreseen with this? For you, it was a single prompt - for 40 companies, this probably took up some time. What happens when fifty people fire off a 15-second "get me a shirt" prompt? When fiv…
A reasonable pushback. It originally only reached out to 5, didnt hear back, so reached out to 5 more. I personally pushed it to reach out to an additional 30 after that. One of the difficulties of sourcing this is a lot of the suppliers in vietnam are only contactable via whatsapp. Emails are monitored far less. It's one of the reasons I haven't been successful with this in the past despite trying - it's a very word…
If I got a mountain of AI slop in my inbox I wouldn't reply either. I bet the reason it works by word-of-mouth is to prevent exactly what you're doing.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wanted to make something that didn't feel like just my logo on a shirt, so I had one of my bots reach out to ~40 fabric suppliers in vietnam, negotiate prices, lock one in, and get samples made. Isn't this one of the problems foreseen with this? For you, it was a single prompt - for 40 companies, this probably took up some time. What happens when fifty people fire off a 15-second "get me a shirt" prompt? When fiv…
This is what happens when you place a "contact us for a quote" form on your website. You will get a high percentage of requests that lead no where. Do you have any experience with a company that receives RFQs to land business? You will spend a lot of time answering all of the questions and digging around to ensure you can actually do what is requested spending days/weeks on it. Only for the work to go somewhere else.…
> You will get a high percentage of requests that lead no where
Yes, but as per my last email, previously those were limited by the human scale of those requests.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
And more generally, very often the recipient of an email bears more cost than the sender. I heard this once and keep it in mind for every email I send. How do I reduce the cost of replying. Many times it means getting on the phone/ not sending the email at all.
Isn't a phone call like 10x more taxing than an email reply?
Very likely varies person by person, and topic by topic.
I don't like speaking on the phone, but there are some things where a single 3 minute phone call is much simpler and easier than a seven email reply chain spanning four days.
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#106I feel like we'd be better off if we just stopped at chatbots...why are we so eager to make the internet even more botted
Yeah I'm a bit baffled too... the world is so, so much worse now because of AI.
More scams/spam, lower quality software everywhere, development is no longer fun, many interactions with coworkers are just "have my people talk to your people" behind the scenes, except it's "have my LLM read the huge document your LLM generated". Every business is trying to cut corners by using AI, so customer service sucks, products suck, prices are optimized to be the absolute maximum people will pay regardless of the actual value being provided (including food)...
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#107So OpenClaw that steals your data and profiles you for the US gov. No thanks.
A tool that only people who trust Elon can use.
Elon wanted X to be a universal app like WeChat. Communication, payment, government services (and probably one-shop stop for user surveillance)... Wahey, looking forward to Grokbot telling its users "we logged in to your bank account and moved all your money to BankX, it's got the best interest rate!"
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
A reasonable pushback. It originally only reached out to 5, didnt hear back, so reached out to 5 more. I personally pushed it to reach out to an additional 30 after that. One of the difficulties of sourcing this is a lot of the suppliers in vietnam are only contactable via whatsapp. Emails are monitored far less. It's one of the reasons I haven't been successful with this in the past despite trying - it's a very word…
I don't think your reply addresses the point of my comment at all, which is that people receiving messages from AI agents isn't scalable in the same way that people sending messages from AI agents is.
Funnily this whole example illustrates what everyone on the outside of the LLM psychosis train is saying.
The user without empathy has managed to save 30 minutes on a task they could have done themselves anyway. The only cost was wasting the time of at least 39 other people. It’s gross.