So OpenClaw that steals your data and profiles you for the US gov. No thanks.
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn't the answer obvious? The 40 companies will have to use AI to filter the messages too. If your business is selling tokens, it'd be extremely lucrative for you if the whole society relies on tokens to perform basic operations. That's where we're heading to.
It's crazy dude, whenever we put up a job ad it's filled with thousands of LLM generated fake candidates in a few days. Looking at the examples they show here it is making more sense. Also where all the "content" on LinkedIn comes from.
Only way I was able to get a job recently was via one of a few recruitment firms I was working with. Presumably this will become more common. Basically vendors "selling" actual real humans they vetted.
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#83So OpenClaw that steals your data and profiles you for the US gov. No thanks.
A tool that only people who trust Elon can use.
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#84The scariest part of the interaction is the first video at https://x.ai/bot where the bot just snags your creds from the browser and takes over. So many people are going to give x all their data and creds.
What? How? Just the x.com creds or other ones too?
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#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wanted to make something that didn't feel like just my logo on a shirt, so I had one of my bots reach out to ~40 fabric suppliers in vietnam, negotiate prices, lock one in, and get samples made. Isn't this one of the problems foreseen with this? For you, it was a single prompt - for 40 companies, this probably took up some time. What happens when fifty people fire off a 15-second "get me a shirt" prompt? When fiv…
Isn't the answer obvious? The 40 companies will have to use AI to filter the messages too. If your business is selling tokens, it'd be extremely lucrative for you if the whole society relies on tokens to perform basic operations. That's where we're heading to.
We will soon be in a world where human to human communication is the only one that has value. Mark my words
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
They don't need to have access to your accounts. You can give them their own accounts.
Sure, but then what’s the use of them? Sounds like a very expensive tamagotchi.
Do your colleagues at work have access to all of your own accounts, or are they expensive tamagotchis?
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#87How do they stop providers (like Amazon, etc.) from detecting and blocking these agents if they are running on cloud? I know that openai wasn't able to avoid this which is why they moved to 'computer use' on your local machine. I almost wonder if this is a place where SpaceX, as an internet provider through starlink, has a unique advantage because websites are unable to block their networking as it could be residenti…
I think it creates a loop back connection, basically a reverse socks5 or a VPN if they are more sophisticated. That’s how I would do it. Note that I am also working on a such bot/AI os and mine is better (for now) . If you have trillions, billions to or millions to invest feel free to reach out.
This would imply you need to have your computer on in order for it to function, which seems like a deal breaker for many consumer usecases imo. I'd like to be able to say "order my groceries" and then I hop on the subway.
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#89The eternal fight between bots and anti-bot systems. The difference now is that big companies themselves promote/offer bots, but they also don't like to be scraped and use captchas. What do we do now? Is it allowed to use automated tools to interact with any system? Is it allowed to scrape data? Are there any laws for this? If we do things manually it is ok, but not if we use a bot? Confusing (legal) times...
> Is it allowed to use automated tools to interact with any system? I'd hope so, because that's what we're doing right now. Your browser is automatically speaking HTTP for you so that you don't have to. Am I having a bit of a laugh? Maybe. But really, services should be user-agent agnostic. That's the whole "agent" part of User Agent and the founders of the Internet had incredible foresight to name it this way. > Is…
> Your browser is automatically speaking HTTP for you so that you don't have to.
Yes, but it's not filling in the forms or clicking the buttons for me. HTTP is just infrastructure. Are LLMs infrastructure? Are we too maybe infrastructure? Where do we draw the line?
> You mean, request data and receive what the other server voluntarily transmits?
I mean to go over a large collection of publicly or privately (to you) available pages and parse and collect the data, with idea of using it in other purposes.
Regarding scraping, considering that this whole AI phase was built on illegal scraping, I don't think they can say anything now...
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I wanted to make something that didn't feel like just my logo on a shirt, so I had one of my bots reach out to ~40 fabric suppliers in vietnam, negotiate prices, lock one in, and get samples made. Isn't this one of the problems foreseen with this? For you, it was a single prompt - for 40 companies, this probably took up some time. What happens when fifty people fire off a 15-second "get me a shirt" prompt? When fiv…
Isn't the answer obvious? The 40 companies will have to use AI to filter the messages too. If your business is selling tokens, it'd be extremely lucrative for you if the whole society relies on tokens to perform basic operations. That's where we're heading to.
LLM is really an anti human technology. The incentives that creates are terrible for society