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Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

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Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

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> People tell these models everything . You don't think a pretty unethical company can figure out a way to monetize that? I assume research-level questions about scientific topics (with a focus on math and computer science) are not easy to monetize (yes, this is by far the most common kind of question to AI models for me). :-D

I guarantee you're a lot easier to manipulate than you think.

> I guarantee you're a lot easier to manipulate than you think.

I can imagine some hypothetical scenarios, but I do believe that I have strong evidence that this is mostly not the case.

For example, I think I have already told the story how when I worked together with a person who is a business consultant (and thus salesman) told me that C-level executives are an incredibly easy sales target compared to me. For him, selling something to me was "ultra-hard mode", basically because I could immediately see through every sales tactic that he tried on me.

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

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> For Plus and Pro users, we’re updating GPT‑5.6 Sol in Chat to be more reliable with facts and provide more focused answers. I was not impressed with 5.6 and this hits exactly why. Also, this instant, medium, and high slider situation we now have everywhere is batshit crazy. It’s a major step back in technology. I’ll put money on the table there will be a surprise in revenue because users have no clue what to choose…

>They need to slow down and do a model release once a year and only do extremely minor iterations instead.

There are a ton of use-cases where the models still struggle a lot and make bad decisions, I'd much prefer they continue their acceleration for a while more.

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

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Excellent. Yes, please give free users more access and leave paying codex users in the dust. Wise plan, Sam.

The literally lowered Luna costs for codex users (and lowered the amount of quota it uses for sub users) earlier this week. This change came for Codex users first.

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

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We don't train current LLMs to mimic the average human's writing style. We train it to be smart, helpful, and knowledgable, too knowledgeable for a human. We can easily train a LLM to pass the Turing test if we wanted to, but then it would just sound dumb or biased.

> but it would just sound dumb or biased We have one of those: Grok.

Yes, and it's indistinguishable from the average X user.

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

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I think the main competitor to OpenAI's free tier is Google Search's AI Overview powered by Gemini 3.5 Flash-Lite. OpenAI's free tier needs to be notably better than that for people to bother. There's also Gemini 3.6 Flash with a generous free tier.

I'm getting all my questions (3-10 each evening) answered by "Gemini Pro Extended" in the free tier, sometimes with PDFs or photos attached. I wouldn't bother with anything "free" below that, unless I'm agentic coding or something.

Are you certain they are the correct answers? No other AI tool halucinations so confidently for me as does Gemini. And I get them across so many topics.

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

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> Our mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. We’re introducing updates to ChatGPT that improve everyday conversations while expanding access for Free users. This clearly implies that they believe ChatGPT models are AGI and are now willing to say it out loud. Which I think is a fair interpretation of the term. They are general purpose intelligence in that you can get help f…

I don't think this means they believe ChatGPT is AGI.

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

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> Our mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. We’re introducing updates to ChatGPT that improve everyday conversations while expanding access for Free users. This clearly implies that they believe ChatGPT models are AGI and are now willing to say it out loud. Which I think is a fair interpretation of the term. They are general purpose intelligence in that you can get help f…

> This clearly implies that they believe ChatGPT models are AGI and are now willing to say it out loud. > Which I think is a fair interpretation of the term

You can't be serious... Case in point - I just asked GPT Sol High to give me a weekly update of local ai changes.

Here's it's first update, which is complete and utter garbage; i.e. it's a lot of words that says absolutely nothing. That's just a random word generator; AGI? Not even remotely in the ballpark.

https://chatgpt.com/share/6a761ec1-4b38-83ea-a8f7-8f02084e63...

Re: Improving GPT‑5.6 Sol in ChatGPT, expanding GPT‑5.6 Luna access for free users

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free unlimited luna is a pretty badass move luna is very good

I guess I should give it another shot because I had pretty bad experience with Luna when it first came out. Stuff Sonnet knew better.

Luna correlates with Claude Haiku, not sonnet. I think Terra would be the equivalent to Sonnet.
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