I am cynical about this, but I would be careful about giving Meta access even to my open source code by myself.
If it's open source then they already have your code.
That was sarcasm.
Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2
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Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
I respsct the F out out you and all your work but I am completely baffled by this line of thinking, we are talking about Meta here…
I just cannot comprehend this level of corporate villainy that boils down to: Let's have two pricing levels. One will be 12.5x more expensive than the other. For the cheaper one, we will get their express permission to train models on their inputs. For the more expensive one, we will still treat their data EXACTLY the same, but we'll lie to them and say that we won't. I've checked in with legal and they raised their…
What I love is the idea that this is more likely to happen at Meta than at Anthropic, Google, Microsoft or OpenAI... or in the PRC!
There's contractual cover, there are lawyers all over the USA ready to make themselves very rich by creating a class action over it... you don't have to worry! Or, you do, but frankly, only MI6/CIA/Mossad can save you now.
Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2
#193Meta is offering a 10x discount on input ($0.10 vs. $1.25/Mtok) and 20x discount on output ($0.20 vs. $4.25/Mtok) if you opt in to let them train on your data. https://developer.meta.com/ai/models/muse-spark/
This makes it a very interesting alternative to Deepseek for personal work where I don't care about the training - judging by the AA benchmarks it seems like overall cost per task is similar to the new Deepseek Flash but with better benchmarks (and inbuilt vision capabilities).
Do you know a good place for accessing the full sized chinese models but hosted not in China?
Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
I respsct the F out out you and all your work but I am completely baffled by this line of thinking, we are talking about Meta here…
I just cannot comprehend this level of corporate villainy that boils down to: Let's have two pricing levels. One will be 12.5x more expensive than the other. For the cheaper one, we will get their express permission to train models on their inputs. For the more expensive one, we will still treat their data EXACTLY the same, but we'll lie to them and say that we won't. I've checked in with legal and they raised their…
No one has to say it and plan it out loud. But the data will be sitting there. The incentive to improve the model for enterprise use will only get stronger. It doesn't take much for one engineer or team to go rogue to hack a benchmark. There was a whole cheating controversy with llama 4.
Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
I respsct the F out out you and all your work but I am completely baffled by this line of thinking, we are talking about Meta here…
I just cannot comprehend this level of corporate villainy that boils down to: Let's have two pricing levels. One will be 12.5x more expensive than the other. For the cheaper one, we will get their express permission to train models on their inputs. For the more expensive one, we will still treat their data EXACTLY the same, but we'll lie to them and say that we won't. I've checked in with legal and they raised their…
> I just cannot comprehend this level of corporate villainy that boils down to:
Easy to comprehend: Trust lost is hard to gain.
Though, it is extremely competitive of Meta to sell Muse Spark (Grok 4.5 / Qwen 3.8 Max level model) cheaper than DeepSeek v4 Flash / MiMo v2.5 / GPT 5.6 Luna, regardless.
Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2
#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
I respsct the F out out you and all your work but I am completely baffled by this line of thinking, we are talking about Meta here…
I just cannot comprehend this level of corporate villainy that boils down to: Let's have two pricing levels. One will be 12.5x more expensive than the other. For the cheaper one, we will get their express permission to train models on their inputs. For the more expensive one, we will still treat their data EXACTLY the same, but we'll lie to them and say that we won't. I've checked in with legal and they raised their…
Again, this Meta we are talking about.......
We can make this fun, within 18 months from now, there will be some story / whistleblower like "a inadvertent defect was found that allowed your 'private' data to be used in our training endeavours, we sincerely apologize and have already addressed the issue" - if this does not happened in this timeframe I will donate $1k to a charity of your choice.
Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2
#197>Install Muse Code on macOS or Linux:
>they "trust me". dumb fucks.
No thanks.
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Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2
#198I took a look at the black hole interactive demo/widget and dragged the Mass slider up. It crashed the widget.
Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2
#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
Developers on this orange site never ever learn.
What are you talking about? This is one of the most honest offers ever made by a corporation. “We’ll use your data, and we’ll compensate you for it.” Where is the problem?
Because they want to play teams and act like there's "good" companies,
all the while they throw their bank account and whatever they want at GPT or Claude models.
Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2
#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
Developers on this orange site never ever learn.
What are you talking about? This is one of the most honest offers ever made by a corporation. “We’ll use your data, and we’ll compensate you for it.” Where is the problem?
I agree. I don’t mind you training on my data if you’re up front about it and you are willing to compensate me for it in some way. And if I don’t like the deal, I can always pay full price or use a different model.