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Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by no-name-here » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 3:33 AM UTC

stingraycharles wrote: post #107

OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried following this page, and it's certainly a lot more complex than what Meta is offering. Different price tiers, opt-in configurations, usage based availability.. I'll take the 10x discount for flipping a param switch over this all day long.

Seems pretty clear to me: enable it for the projects you want, and there’s a 1M / 10M token limit per day, depending on the model you use. Assuming an average context size of 100k tokens, that is 10 to 100 requests, which is not a lot. Reason enough to prefer actually paying for Meta as well.

Does it show the free tokens message for you after you enable sharing? It does not for me.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by senor_digimon » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 3:33 AM UTC

Is there a standard benchmark test for all harnesses? How does Muse Code rank compared to Claude Code? Also, do we think the benchmarks to test the harnesses are any good?

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by JimDabell » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 3:42 AM UTC

bdangubic wrote: post #115

simonw wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you think the only difference between the $1.25/million token plan and the $0.10/million token plan is that you pay them more to both lie to you and breach their contractual obligation to you?

when has Meta ever not broken their contractual obligations (I am being serious here)? are we seriously discussing/expecting any sort of privacy related to Meta? you can pay whatever they want, they will train and use your data, I figured this is not something that should be discussed but obviously I have been mistaken...

> when has Meta ever not broken their contractual obligations (I am being serious here)?

If you are being serious, then you have a wildly distorted view of the world. No organisation can routinely break all of their contractual obligations. If you think Meta are doing this then you are not seeing Meta, you are seeing a fictional bogeyman.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by theanonymousone » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 3:45 AM UTC

tristanj wrote: post #42

Meta is offering a 10x discount on input ($0.10 vs. $1.25/Mtok) and 20x discount on output ($0.20 vs. $4.25/Mtok) if you opt in to let them train on your data. https://developer.meta.com/ai/models/muse-spark/

I believe that will put them in the Pareto frontier.

But I cannot find this "variant" in OpenRouter.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by NitpickLawyer » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 3:48 AM UTC

sams99 wrote: post #117

Unfortunately I find this too high risk, I entered my credit card, but can not set a limit. The best I can do is get an email alert. I feel like I am one oopsie away from getting a 100 dollar bill.

1.2 is now on openrouter. You could try it there, they have hard limits per key.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by sams99 » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 4:12 AM UTC

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #125

sams99 wrote: post #117

Unfortunately I find this too high risk, I entered my credit card, but can not set a limit. The best I can do is get an email alert. I feel like I am one oopsie away from getting a 100 dollar bill.

1.2 is now on openrouter. You could try it there, they have hard limits per key.

absolutely and fair... you do lose out though on the mega discounted endpoint they have there.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by sidcool » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 4:44 AM UTC

I am cynical about this, but I would be careful about giving Meta access even to my open source code by myself.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by looksjjhg » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 4:54 AM UTC

simonw wrote: post #97

It can cyberattack other companies, too: https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/05/tech/meta-ai-hacking

It’s hilarious that these companies are reacting this way this would have been a major lawsuit and an investigation a couple years ago … now they’re like oupsi our model did it again, he’s so crazy smart. Well tell him to behave next time pinky promise hhh

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by zmmmmm » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 5:24 AM UTC

Muse code is more interesting than the new model in that it seems to natively ship with an orchestrator / subagent pattern built in. Curious if it works well in practice compared to achieving the same thing in Claude code etc?

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Post by no-name-here » Thu, Aug 06, 2026, 5:44 AM UTC

no-name-here wrote: post #114

skybrian wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems to be for business plans only?

Does it say that? I’m unclear. Even non business accounts seem to have org settings pages: https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr... But even with all data sharing enabled, I’m not seeing the free tokens message there. Do others see a free tokens message at https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr... after enabling all sharing there?

Also, in a desktop browser at the page's [1] lower left it says "Personal organization", so if the 'organization' term is the concern, OpenAI still seems to use the term 'organization' even for personal accounts.

[1] https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/data-contr...