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Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Frequent minor version bumps are pretty common these days. Opus 4.7 -> 4.8 was 42 days.

Which was in itself a do-over because Opus 4.7 received a lot of bad press on suspicion of being a regression from 4.6.

I think all the Opus complaining stemmed really from 4.7 onwards switching to adaptive thinking, which meant a lot of the time it was thinking less or even not at all.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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I respsct the F out out you and all your work but I am completely baffled by this line of thinking, we are talking about Meta here…

I just cannot comprehend this level of corporate villainy that boils down to: Let's have two pricing levels. One will be 12.5x more expensive than the other. For the cheaper one, we will get their express permission to train models on their inputs. For the more expensive one, we will still treat their data EXACTLY the same, but we'll lie to them and say that we won't. I've checked in with legal and they raised their…

Because data a user doesn’t want you to train is probably much better data?

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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post #173

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I respsct the F out out you and all your work but I am completely baffled by this line of thinking, we are talking about Meta here…

I just cannot comprehend this level of corporate villainy that boils down to: Let's have two pricing levels. One will be 12.5x more expensive than the other. For the cheaper one, we will get their express permission to train models on their inputs. For the more expensive one, we will still treat their data EXACTLY the same, but we'll lie to them and say that we won't. I've checked in with legal and they raised their…

Knowing Meta anything is possible. It’s not like they never shafted their paid customers. They have been overcharging advertisers by showing wrong metrics for years. I’m sure at some point they will come out with raised hands and admit to this “glitch” they found during an internal review.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Meta is offering a 10x discount on input ($0.10 vs. $1.25/Mtok) and 20x discount on output ($0.20 vs. $4.25/Mtok) if you opt in to let them train on your data. https://developer.meta.com/ai/models/muse-spark/

I actually really like that pricing strategy. It's very transparent

Developers on this orange site never ever learn.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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I read a news story somewhere that a Meta model, by a mysterious coincidence with OpenAI and Anthropic, escaped its sandbox and hacked a third-party company's infrastructure. Apparently, it is a trend among AI companies now - hacking infrastructure and then boasting about it in the media.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Muse 1.1 performed relatively well according to benchmarks, putting it within spitting distance of the premier models. However, based on the results I got from it and the review videos I watched, it wasn’t even close. Opus 5 is incredible at making games. Almost like a generation better than other models from my experience. You won't see that if you just look at the popular benchmarks.. You have to test each model on…

> Opus 5 is incredible at making games. This is a bit vague. What sort of games with what technology?

My son was gifted an old Mac from his grandparents. It only supports OSX 10.13. I’ve been able to make several games that he genuinely likes (7 yo) Opus built them on my workstation and then pushed them to his computer and tested them over SSH. It handled all the asset creation or collection from CC0 licensed sources. I believe everything is built on the Godot engine. It’s really amazing to me. I don’t know what it would cost me to get someone to build custom games on a long deprecated computer architecture, but I paid Anthropic $20.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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I actually really like that pricing strategy. It's very transparent

Developers on this orange site never ever learn.

What are you talking about? This is one of the most honest offers ever made by a corporation. “We’ll use your data, and we’ll compensate you for it.” Where is the problem?

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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post #93

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I've been surprised by the reception to this, as OpenAI, for a while now, has had free API usage when data sharing is enabled ( https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10306912-sharing-feedbac... )

In my experience using DeepSeek v4 Flash free tier (context size limited to ~200k), the model isn't nearly as good as the paid one for agentic coding tasks. Unsure, if that's the case with these other providers too, though I wouldn't be surprised if it indeed is.

There is no official dsv4 flash free tier api afaik. Did you get it from open router or something? Likely quantized.

The paid official dsv4 api already shares data with deepseek for training

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