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I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Ive been really annoyed at my iphone keyboard recently because it seems like a slow drift of whatever optimized state it was in was getting slower and slower. It seems to freeze partway thru typing something frequently now.

It could be that the HN crowd is getting older? You age, your finger tips dry out, virtual keyboards get wonky.

if only age was cleared after a reboot too

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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I haven't used it myself but every now and then, I'm tempted to try a Furiphone. Just from what I've read, it looks like the easiest out-of-the-box Linux experience on a phone. Does anyone here have direct experience with it?

Yes. I have been daily driving one for almost 2 years. No it's not as polished as an iPhone of Samsung, but it also doesn't have the backing and history those phones have. In the time I've had it, the improvements have been huge. Some say it's a bit laggy - I don't think it is, I think this is down to not having animations to tide you over between this view and that view. It works. It can run banking apps in Android.…

Thanks for the mini review. That does sound rather encouraging.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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In Europe at least the banks website won’t function if you don’t auth with their app.

I live in Europe and I can use my bank just fine without their app. I've read somewhere that some banks will let you use their SMS 2FA as long as you haven't already used their mobile app.

Cool, good to know. When I first moved to Ireland you could get a hardware code generator too but I don’t know if that’s still a thing

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Perfect is the enemy of good. Also, you can use the bank's website for most tasks. I think most non-techies could happily do this.

The problem is that one essential app being unavailable can outweigh the other 95% of the phone working perfectly

Capitalists know how to hook up the intended audience. Just disallow people to use their money with any FOSS OS. RMS is crying.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Is there such thing as a palm-sized mobile PC that can just run a desktop Linux distribution (or Windows for that matter) that supports mobile features (calling, SMS, and data)? Even if it has rough edges or compromises?

Purely an akchally, but there is the Fujitsu F-07C. Topologically it was a Windows 7 stick PC duct taped to a 3G flip phone that acts like a KVM console and a modem.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Counter-evidence: the Google Play Store, which is a wretched hive of scum and villainy. And also malware.

Counter-evidence: Repos such as AUR That blast radius coupled with (non-Android) Linux's atrocious security is a far worse option

>Repos such as AUR

AUR isn't a traditional repository but more functions like a paste bin for package build scripts you have to go out of your way to enable and use at your own risk. It is not how actual Linux repositories work which are way more safe than google or even apple app store.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Get a new bank, make sure your old one knows why you left. Try a local credit union.

Although I’m 100% in favor of credit unions over megabanks, I would not count on most having remotely decent web or app experiences.

I tried repeatedly with several credit unions, with poor results. The final straw was the patelco hack that made the entire bank unavailable for over a week. In the aftermath they implanted crazy security measures where talking to a rep required 6 layers of increasingly invasive authentication. But... The hack was of the bank infrastructure. It had nothing to do with individualized fraud, all accounts were affected --it was just security theater. I went back to a major bank after that.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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I would love to do this. It's shocking how little Android offers for the hardware it uses. Recently I was thinking if I could install Windows 98 on my phone, even that would be better. At least I could have more than one app open without it burning all my work just because I dared to check info on a web page while filling a form.

My LineageOS setup used to do that; until I found that someone found a script that would adjust the memory allocation and OOM killer to more sensible values. I just have that run on boot. No side effects.

Unfortunately, that's not an option for most people, the only choice is to complain - but not like there's any other option on the market that behaves better. Or there's some other drawback, or different UI to learn...

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Perfect is the enemy of good. Also, you can use the bank's website for most tasks. I think most non-techies could happily do this.

In Europe at least the banks website won’t function if you don’t auth with their app.

I also live in Europe, and can use my bank in a webbrowser.

I used their App previously, and can just switch back to using the website, after authenticating via both sms and e-mail.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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If only a few techies will be able to use Linux phone, banks will freely lock payment services access down to two platforms: ios and android. No way out, it's happening right now (in the name of "security", of course, but surprisingly it does not stop scam from happening). Web will be locked down too, via secureboot stack browser integration (not -s, it's already actually monopolised to chrome only, as FF lives on fu…

Perhaps we can think of this? Use a linux phone and an android phone as VM. For apps that are not immediately available as Linux apps, we continue to use the android VM. We continuously make better apps available on Linux and maybe, just maybe eventually switch completely to Linux phone.

Waydroid, mentioned in the article, is approximately this
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