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I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Post by CalRobert »

jarbus wrote: post #80

I really want to love mobile Linux, and have given it multiple shots before. But I just don't see how it will catch up with iOS/Android in the same way it caught up with Windows/Mac: - OEMs have poured an enormous amount of resources into the camera software, Linux cameras are years behind from what I understand. - Android/iOS have thoroughly optimized the UX in all sorts of subtle ways, the big one being their keybo…

Honestly, I just want a hardware keyboard. I still miss the slider htc touch pro 2

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Post by CalRobert »

zx8080 wrote: post #198

If only a few techies will be able to use Linux phone, banks will freely lock payment services access down to two platforms: ios and android. No way out, it's happening right now (in the name of "security", of course, but surprisingly it does not stop scam from happening). Web will be locked down too, via secureboot stack browser integration (not -s, it's already actually monopolised to chrome only, as FF lives on fu…

Recaptcha requiring attestation also belongs in the list

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Post by tarkin2 »

zx8080 wrote: post #198

If only a few techies will be able to use Linux phone, banks will freely lock payment services access down to two platforms: ios and android. No way out, it's happening right now (in the name of "security", of course, but surprisingly it does not stop scam from happening). Web will be locked down too, via secureboot stack browser integration (not -s, it's already actually monopolised to chrome only, as FF lives on fu…

Perfect is the enemy of good.

Also, you can use the bank's website for most tasks.

I think most non-techies could happily do this.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Post by CalRobert »

tarkin2 wrote: post #223
zx8080 wrote: post #198

If only a few techies will be able to use Linux phone, banks will freely lock payment services access down to two platforms: ios and android. No way out, it's happening right now (in the name of "security", of course, but surprisingly it does not stop scam from happening). Web will be locked down too, via secureboot stack browser integration (not -s, it's already actually monopolised to chrome only, as FF lives on fu…

Perfect is the enemy of good. Also, you can use the bank's website for most tasks. I think most non-techies could happily do this.

In Europe at least the banks website won’t function if you don’t auth with their app.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Post by MarceliusK »

zx8080 wrote: post #198

If only a few techies will be able to use Linux phone, banks will freely lock payment services access down to two platforms: ios and android. No way out, it's happening right now (in the name of "security", of course, but surprisingly it does not stop scam from happening). Web will be locked down too, via secureboot stack browser integration (not -s, it's already actually monopolised to chrome only, as FF lives on fu…

The frustrating part is that security increasingly means proving you are using an approved device and software stack, rather than proving that you are actually the account owner

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Post by toastal »

preisschild wrote: post #14

"I'm switching my phone from to " Why not just use an Android AOSP distribution? SailfishOS is proprietary. It will be a lot more "locked down" than LineageOS/GrapheneOS.

Sailfish has some proprietary stuff to deal with the Android & Sony as well as Qt being Qt. Much of their software is open source—& collaborative with translations & forums for feedback. Out of the box, you on Sailfish you get root support which lets you actually be the device owner. You are allowed to install whatever software from wherever you want… things Android no longer is. It’s not a flawless platform, but Android in practice gives you so, so little control over your actual device.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Post by vrinsd »

jolmg wrote: post #92
summermusic wrote: post #41

Is there such thing as a palm-sized mobile PC that can just run a desktop Linux distribution (or Windows for that matter) that supports mobile features (calling, SMS, and data)? Even if it has rough edges or compromises?

PinePhone (Pro) or Librem 5 > run a desktop Linux distribution (or Windows for that matter) that supports mobile features (calling, SMS, and data)? The above use ARM SoCs. Palm-sized x86 with cell modem? Doubt it.

Except Motorola shipped an Android phone with an x86 CPU -- RAZR i (2GHz Atom) in 2012.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Post by MarceliusK »

tarkin2 wrote: post #223
zx8080 wrote: post #198

If only a few techies will be able to use Linux phone, banks will freely lock payment services access down to two platforms: ios and android. No way out, it's happening right now (in the name of "security", of course, but surprisingly it does not stop scam from happening). Web will be locked down too, via secureboot stack browser integration (not -s, it's already actually monopolised to chrome only, as FF lives on fu…

Perfect is the enemy of good. Also, you can use the bank's website for most tasks. I think most non-techies could happily do this.

The problem is that one essential app being unavailable can outweigh the other 95% of the phone working perfectly

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Post by CalRobert »

Underphil wrote: post #60
bpavuk wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

just don't want to. it would be nonsensical to get it since all functionality that was provided by ATMs in pre-mobile age mono provides only via an app. ATMs log in through app and only exist to accept cash, so I can't use it as a "secondary authentication method" in ATMs or check my balance outside the app.

Everyone's situation is different I suppose. But I do tire when people choose the convenience over the freedom. Not saying that's what you're doing, but I hear it often enough.

We chose that when we stopped using cash.
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