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I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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I've been daily driving Linux phones for the last 18 years and I would never switch away. Sure, at the beginning it required you to make it your hobby, but you were being rewarded for it. Sometimes when I'm looking at Android/iOS devices being used over someone's shoulder I'm quite horrified at what I see and what people consider normal these days and so glad that my phone works for me rather than anyone else.

What do you use? both in terms of hardware and software. I love the idea of a linux phone but I'm very skeptical.

I'm currently using a Librem 5 with PureOS 11 and Phosh. PureOS is a bit behind on software releases compared to other available distros, but I find it to be the most polished and stable experience.

In the past I have used a Neo Freerunner (with Om2007.2 and later SHR) and then a Nokia N900 (with Maemo 5). The former demanded plenty of your attention but could be made to work well enough, while the latter was a really nice yet exceptionally hackable consumer device. Before I switched to a Librem 5 I had carried a second phone with Android for about 3 years as the N900 was already too old for comfortable web browsing and there was nothing else on the market that I'd consider worth switching to for a while - but that was the only such exception.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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Is there such thing as a palm-sized mobile PC that can just run a desktop Linux distribution (or Windows for that matter) that supports mobile features (calling, SMS, and data)? Even if it has rough edges or compromises?

Looks like some of GPD Pocket systems can have sim cards. But don't know how good the linux compatibility is.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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I expect everyone who can conceive of something other than Android or iOS* on a phone is on HN, and not a bureaucrat in Brussels. *(or BB, webOS, Windows Phone 7 Phone OS Phone Microsoft, Symbian, etc. if old enough)

Why not have US Federal Government enforce this instead? It's way more impactful for most HN users. Why wait for Brussels beaurocrats we all have this much and not have the most important tech country in the world make this law?

..sure? I don't personally care what either enforces, since I'm in neither jurisdiction. I wouldn't have thought the US is any more (or even as) likely to personally, but sure. I said Brussels because comment I replied to said EU.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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I have thought about buying one of the Pinephone things, because I want to actually own the computer in my pocket, but I have always hesitated because the hardware is always kind of ancient for these things. The Pinephone doesn’t even have 5G, so I am not even sure that my phone service will let me activate it now. What I would like is to take my existing iPhone 13 Pro and install a real Linux on it so I could guaran…

5G is probably not a requirement for your phone service (although I can’t say for sure). The critical bit on networks in the U.S. and many other countries without 2G or 3G is VoLTE for phone calls and texts, which it does support. Some carriers have device whitelists that are only loosely related to technical features, though.

Even still, it's 2026, I don't really think "has 5G" is considered a luxury feature on a smartphone.

I'm sure that the Pine folks have very good reasons for not having 5G support, but those reasons don't really matter to the end user.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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What's a good phone for use without Google's Play Store? F-Droid only. No Google account.

Ironically, Google Pixel phones are the best phones for leaving Google behind. The have an unlocked bootloader and are the only phones supported by GrapheneOS [1]. If you don't want to go to GrapheneOS, any Android phone should be able to use F-Droid. [1] https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices

After September, will you still be able to install F-Droid on phones with Google accounts?

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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If only a few techies will be able to use Linux phone, banks will freely lock payment services access down to two platforms: ios and android. No way out, it's happening right now (in the name of "security", of course, but surprisingly it does not stop scam from happening).

Web will be locked down too, via secureboot stack browser integration (not -s, it's already actually monopolised to chrome only, as FF lives on full life support from Google).

Very sad how it was allowed to happen so easily.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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I really want to love mobile Linux, and have given it multiple shots before. But I just don't see how it will catch up with iOS/Android in the same way it caught up with Windows/Mac: - OEMs have poured an enormous amount of resources into the camera software, Linux cameras are years behind from what I understand. - Android/iOS have thoroughly optimized the UX in all sorts of subtle ways, the big one being their keybo…

Apple's mobile keyboard is the worst I've used. I basically have to correct about half the words I type.

Re: I'm switching my phone from Android to Linux

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I really want to love mobile Linux, and have given it multiple shots before. But I just don't see how it will catch up with iOS/Android in the same way it caught up with Windows/Mac: - OEMs have poured an enormous amount of resources into the camera software, Linux cameras are years behind from what I understand. - Android/iOS have thoroughly optimized the UX in all sorts of subtle ways, the big one being their keybo…

Wait.

Are you all seriously arguing/considering that the barrier is something like "innovation" or "UX" or "hard work at improving the OS?"

Like seriously?

Come on. By now we should know what actually happens. The entrenched carriers will fight tooth and nail to prevent this. That's the real threat. It will look like the above, but like e.g. Google lying about why it got rid of Google Reader, the real story will be "monopolies gonna monopolize."

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